philstill

Some great thoughts and information on this thread.

This is a great thread with insightful views.

Welcome and let me know if you need help with your glass bottles!

Thanks and will do.

Sask.

Yes.... But.

You would loose customers that came to your distillery. If you had a website and marketing campaign that emphasized the quality. flavor and the facts that independent judges rated your quality of product best. You would grow your business.

A restaurant can have great quality food. But if the plates are mismatched, the bathrooms clean, but shabby. It will have difficulties as well.For the public, perception is well over 50% of reality and opinion. The polished copper and stainless on the outside of the still and the building have nothing to do with what happens to the ingredients and process within it.

But the customers that see the inside and outside of the production facility don't think of that.

Has anyone had any experience with the DYE systems? I love the modular design and have seen a similar system in action. Looks like that type of set up might suit my goals as a small shop. The DYE systems are reasonably priced, expandable, and seem well engineered. While I would prefer to buy american, we do live in global society and it's not always easy, all things considered, to fit that bill. Looking forward to thoughts on this.

Thanks in advance,

Masterofnone

China produces nine times the stainless steel as compared to the US. If you looked enough you could find a Chinese manufacturer that could produce a still out of milled copper.

IMO you just have to do some legwork on time on the phone to save the money. China doesn't have the reputation of Germany or US manufacturing.

But it has skilled labor, lower manufacturing costs and exchange rates have hurt US manufacturing.

Ok here is one method of how I develop a recipe.

Equipment needed-

1. volumetric cylinder 50ml, the smaller the more precise normaly +/- .01 ml. We use only top namebrand equipment not cheap Chinese junk. Accuracy is the most important thing here.

2. scale in grams. We use a 120 gram scale, with an accuracy of .001 grams

3. magnetic stir plate

4. precision spoon

XXXXXXXXXXX

1. weight the volumetric cylinder, record the weight.

2. place 20 ml of water into cylinder, record weight

3. fill up 1 oz container with sugar and place on 120 gram scale, record weight

4. put sugar into cylinder until volume in cylinder has risen at least 10ml

5. put on magnetic stir plate until solution is dissolved. If the volume of the cylinder has decreased because of solution being mixed add more sugar to bring the level back up and continue mixing. Avoid any splashing or turbulent mixing.

6. once the level is stable, record the weight.

XXXX done.

example= lets just make up numbers. cylinder=60 grams, water=40 grams, sugar=15 grams per 10ml (don't forget to take off the stir bar)

results-

1. you should be able to say 115grams is the total weight

2. for every 10 ml of displacement you need 15 grams of sugar.

XXXXXX example

Lets say you have 315.80ml of 190 proof spirit @ x amount of grams , so you want to get it to 80p so you will need to add 456.18 ml of water (@ x amount of grams) to thin down the batch. this will make 750ml

You will lose about -21.98 ml do to blending and the spirit absorbing.

Now lets say for every bottle you need 150 grams of sugar. So 150 grams = 100ml of displacement.

now it will look like this

315.80 ml spirit or x amount of weight

356.18 ml water or x amount of weight

150 grams sugar

** by knowing the weight of everything it makes mixing and blending very easy.*** We always mix by weight, weight is Constant whereas volume can change depending on temperature.***

I hope this helps.

This is how chemists become artists.

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Hello everybody I'm from Canada and have had a long interest in spirits and wine. I'm getting a small berry orchard started and plan on some brandies and liquors.

thanks