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I had a 1.5l soxhlet made to experiment with, for some reason the liquid level gets right up to the vapour inlet which is above the syphon tube but it doesn't auto-syphen. Have i got the design wrong? Teh down the tube shot is showing the liquid level all the way up to the vapour inlet tube.

Ok - under a critical eye and the light of day with my glasses on and a magnifying glass, my dust is actually tiny tiny bubbles that occur when the bottle is handled roughly. That is filtered through the series 28 plastic housing and a 1 micron filter.

thanks everyone.

and are you saying 2 x code 7 housings? 1 just before enolmatic for final "catch all" and 1 between tanks with liquid being move by pump?

thanks again Michael. Having determined the tenco housing with their 0.2 micron rated filter still leaves me with what I perceive to be dust in my product, I also tried this 10" housing https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1077/6220/files/28_Series.pdf?1342048788503970907 with the filter in the pdf attached (from the UK guys you mentioned) - JMP1S1FB (1 micron , 10 inch absolute rated Pleated polypropylene with Am fit end cap) This end cap fits over the spiggot of the filter housing head. Still seeing dust! I will look into a housing, pump and the filters you have suggested. thanks again. JaguarMP REV3.pdf

Got the filler pulling through the 0.2 micron filter. The O-ring wasn't seated. I am still seeing the "dust" I spoke to someone who reckons all filters should be pumped through and not sucked. Maybe I will splash out on a SS filter to see what difference if any that makes.

i might actually be going crazy and the "dust" are very tiny air bubbles.

I usually pull a bottle worth of product through the filter 8 or so times and empty the bottle back into the tank.

I am at the end of my tether with filtering now :-) I have now received 1 micron absolute rated filters for my 10" housing and I can still see dust in my finished product. I just don't understand how i can be possible with the filter being the last thing in the chain. I am starting to question my sanity.

Thanks Michael, all the other suppliers I ask about fillers push me toward the enolmaster so it's good to have a balanced opinion on the matter.

Hehe, I'd already just watched that. You are famous. When the bottle is full and removed does the bottle fill up a smidge more? Or once full does the filler line drain down into the holding tank until a new bottle is introduced?

thanks Michael, I will check some videos on gravity fillers as I don't fully understand how they work.

spec sheets - if only! I struggles to find one for the tenco filters but my supplier sent through that the nominal are 99.9% efficient. @MichaelAtTCWwhat is you opinion on fillers? moving from a single spout to 4 spout - is it better to move to gravity? or go with something like enolmaster. I'm just after opinions is all.. as it's an expensive mistake to fix after purchase.

agree with all that.. indeed the nominal i have been using from tenco in the past is nominal and did a great job. The nominal i got from a new supplier are crap. I am trying yet another supplier who says they are absolute but for £15 i am suspicious! let's see. Further update - the new enolmatic i got was damaged in transit (air filter broke off and pump mouting plate bent) - but it did allow me to test my current 0.2 micron tenco filter - the new enolmatic it wont pull through it, so it seems that in the past they have been sending me something other than 0.2 and when they did actually send me 0.2 the enolmatic doesnt have the suck to pull through it, New filters is 1 micron so hopefully will filter correctly and work with enolmatic. What a fiasco! open question - vacuum or gravity for a 4 spout filler?

updates... the double open ended 1 micron filters i was sold are not absolute, i.e they are crap. The manufacturer themselves states that they are so crap they shouldn't be used below 30 microns. I have sent them back for a refund. I have since discovered the human eye can't see anything below 30 microns. I have purchased 1 micron absolute filters from another supplier that are about £15 each so will see how they go. I have also purchased a new enolmatic filler so can use that for troubleshooting the old one and have a spare machine once I have found the fault with my current machine.

never heard of them before, hopefully someone has. Does it measure liquids with added or natural sugars? such as liqueurs etc.

the lid to the overflow is definitely leaking air, so i bypassed it. the pump connector seemed lose so i glued it the filling nozzle got a good cleaning with spirit and I used a few wraps of ptfe still doesn't pull a good enough vacuum. I think I have to admit defeat on this one and stop wasting time and buy a new unit. I can't wait to get into a bigger place after trade pics up again - I will probably go with a gravity filler as they seem so much simpler! get a pump and inline filtration and rather than chasing vacuum faults if there is an issue it should be easier to track down as presumably there will be a leak. The new vacuum filler i buy can serve as a backup. Mori seem to have a good reputation, I have emailed them to see if they have a distributor in the UK.

thanks Pete - very useful info from you there. I will perform some more diagnostics based on your first hand experience.

I have had a good polish using the inline filter from tandem in the past, but I am just having a hard time undertsanding what micron rating the filter was as my order history states 0.2 micron yet the replacement 0.2 micron filter i have today isn't working.. maybe my enolmatic vacuum filler isn't pulling a good vacuum anymore due to age, degraded seal, hose fitting etc.. and this degraded vacuum is enough for the 1 micron cheap filter. as a last effort i will try find a 0.5 micron cheap filter to see if that is a happy medium, something like these - I am just not sure yet if they are suitable for my housing or rated for alcohol. I have a 10" clear housing https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1077/6220/files/28_Series.pdf?1342048788503970907 maybe these will work? https://trademarkaquatics.co.uk/product/10-spectrum-wound-pp-sediment-filter-0-5-micron/ https://www.andrewswater.co.uk/aqua-cure-10-wound-polypropylene-sediment-filter-0-5-micron Failing that I will have to do as you and go tank to tank filtration.

nope didn't work.

I'll try that immediately and report back!

it's not haze. filters wound type. filters are new i have even put 2 x 1 micron in series both new and still see tiny particles. I have come from the tandem filters that are around 70 euros, to the current ones, more like 8 euros. but the supplier assures me they have hundreds of active deployments using them. I will give them another chance using the same cheap filters but 0.5 microns. if that still isnt good enough i will send them back and try the tandem 1 micron. tandem https://www.polsinelli.it/en/filter-cartridge-1-micron-P825.htm cheap ones, the one on the left on the first page https://29bcd367-591c-4c51-86e8-9dc723c6a5ae.filesusr.com/ugd/38e733_9eac9ae48db14bc0a4a92ff9096c1e3b.pdf

Been using one for a good amount of time, convinced myself i was using 0.2 micron filter. Good level of polish with my clear gin, no complaints. Just received my new 0.2 micron filters and the enolmatic doesn't have the suck to pull liquid through it. I have disposed of the old filter and my online account with the supplier does say 0.2 micron. But i recall that if i flushed water down the center of the filter it flowed throw it.. with the new 0.2 micron it holds water. Leading me to believe I have never been using 0.2 micron filters. I am trying out a new filter as the tandem filters are costly, this new filter is 1 micron and i can see particles floating around in the bottled product. Is 1 micron sufficient for a polish? maybe all 1 micron filters aren't created equally if this new one is allowing particles through.

CRAZY TIMES

I know! I have looked at that picture a dozen times and I still can't figure out what the hell is going on. They pot still GNS 20 times? to make it purer? really?