clearwaterbrewer

New out of box, never used, slight scuffs in paint, Jabsco Flexible impeller pedestal pump (uses coupler to connect to motor, required pedestal pump and motor be fixed to base plate), no motor included, obviously, but I have some Lovejoy L-110 Couplings and Hub Spider that fit a 3-5hp motor with 1.125" shaft that I can include.

It has acme threads, so would need acme hoses or adapters to go to clamp.  Retail price is over $4k,  selling for what I have in it. I went a different route and maybe someone wants to build a FIP pump

https://www.pumpvendor.com/Jabsco_30570-0005.html

https://www.pumpagents.com/JabscoPumps/30570-0005.html

search 'steam eductor' on aliexpress, I got a 1/4" one and a 3/8" one, for around $20 total, the 1/4" one can hadle 11kw, or 1HP, the 3/8" can handle double that..  I run it with 16.5KW, or 1.5HP of steam to heat molasses...

I was thinking a couple 60BBL brewery fermenters would hold a tanker full of molasses. Tthe molasses place I get mine from suggested a couple roto-molded ones, but I am in a downtown, and they would get the evil eye, and people would worry about spillage...  but a couple beer fermenters would be more attractive...   not cheap, but reasonable if used, and attractive and have great resale value, unlike poly...

Turkey Red Oil, which is sulfated castor oil is a 'water soluble oil' that will lower foaming  LOT...  It works as good as fermcap-S IMHO...  I remember an old timer giving me some in a tiny old glass carmex  container 30 years ago and said "if you ever run just water in your cooling system of your car, put just a couple drops of this in for lube"...

I have had the  Xpressfill XF460 for 4 years and happy with it...

5.4 and citric to lower to 4.9 here...  which seems counter-intuitive, but works great.  Wheras not 'shocking' the pH downward will result in a stuck fermentation with a pH in the mid 3's in a few days

we use blackstrap and we heat to 200F, dilute,  mix, and settle/clarify while covered and cooling, then rack and pitch 24 hours later.  Here are samples taken right after thorough mixing and set for 24 hours...  The one on the left had the molasses heated to 200 before adding water, the one on the right was only heated to 160, and you can see the growth, which takes the pH to 3.0 in days, kills the yeast, and causes a green distillate

where does one find the optimum temps for whitestar yeasts?

thanks for the support guys...  I ended up getting the two with formulas aback as approved in less than 48 hours, then the two without formulas(same image files) came back a few days later... I think someone was just grumpy or not 100% up to snuff on rules.....  

where are these located?

I am going around and around with the 'specialists' at the TTB...  They are saying my 'Brand Name' for a Class-Type 414 Florida Gold Rum cannot be 'Palmer's Tropical'...     (keep in mind I have 5 COLA's approved with just that, we just want to update the labels to a new front and back label..)

First they wanted it to have a formula to explain 'tropical'... 

After stating the steps and results from the "Do I need a formula?" for Rum, they backed off of that and came back with 'Tropical is misleading' as it is not the name of our distillery.  (do they understand what a brand name is?)

I tried to explain that it was just a Brand Name, but they were not having it... They said I was misleading the customer because I did not show the relationship between Cotherman Distilling Company, listed as the distiller and bottler on the back, and 'Palmer's Tropical' on the front... So I sent them the COLA approval for Weller, which says Weller on the front as the Brand Name,  and if you look at the approval details, "Weller" listed in Part 1, line 6 as ...  yes...  the "Brand Name"... 

They are saying: "the name Palmer Tropical is misleading because Palmer's Tropical is not the bottler for this product and does not appear on your permit. The words "Bottled For" must precede the brand name on front label so that the consumer is not misled by the true bottler."

I am biting my tongue.... It is a Brand Name, Dammit!    I just wish I tried this a few months ago before the survey they sent expired...  boy they will get an earful next year!!!!!

In the background, from the beginning, I submitted a formula for 'Tropical' Rum using at least 51% molasses from south Florida, defined as having a 'Tropical' climate, and mentioned in the method of manufacture 'distill to a spirit that retains 'Tropical' flavors of Rum... It was approved in a few days, and I resubmitted new application and attached the formula...

interesting video on how they are made and operate...  

On 7/21/2017 at 0:36 PM, HedgeBird said:

If you have insecurities with Amazon or eBay you can pay $775 more (plus another $150 for shipping) and purchase it here:
https://www.prime-scales.com/product/certified-scale-5000lb-x-1lb-4x4-legal-trade-ntep-floor-scale/

Both units are the same PS-IN202SS:
http://www.prime-scales.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/PS-IN202SS_Operators_Manual_EnglishSpanish.pdf

My local scale service company did not seem concerned with where I purchases it from the two times they have been out to calibrate it.

 

I just bought an eBay one, and the PS-IN202 display unit actually dropped shipped form prime-scales...  so you can rest assured that the same model is available for less and was 1lb away on a measured 2130lb shipment from what the shipper weighed, I am completely happy with my $425 3'x3' 2500lb NTEP floor scale.  

Now, making a formula to do the calculations for % v/v to proof gallons...  that is my next task

On 10/15/2015 at 3:26 PM, grehorst said:

We still do this and it works out great. We first obtained written permission from the TTB and also verified legality with our state- some states require bars to destroy the bottles. We pick up and buy back (.50ea) from our wholesale accounts and consumers can return their bottles to our tasting room and get $1 in store credit for each bottle. We redesigned our labels and use an adhesive that cleanly comes off with a hot water rinse. We wash in a high temp washer (we discard anything that looks suspect- like bottles that were used for infusions) and have had no issues. I have one part time mom who does the work. We have reworked over 6000 bottles so far this year.

yes, the adhesive trade name would be much appreciated!

Looking to know if someone knows of a manufacturer of custom sieve plates.

Looking for 10-20 or so single pass plates like these in a document on The Vespiary. (the ones in figure 1(A), but with 203mm diameter, ~5mm holes, 15% open area ), and prefer a manufacturer that has already built and tested such things.

is it steam or bain marie?  does it have heating elements for the oil bath?

please PM pics

I use a sestos 4-20ma analog output PID with the Johnson controller, but it is only celsius, I eventually found an omron E5CN-C2TD, but have not installed it... 

complete writeup here: https://www.stilldragon.org/discussion/914/automating-reflux-condenser-water-flow

100% happy with the control of it.

OK, anyone have a clue who makes it and how I get a pallet?

https://www.thefowndry.com/products/original-stormtrooper-decanter

OK, if you make a flavored whisky/whiskey, logic would seem to say you would create a formula for Class/Type Flavored Whisky and when you did the label you would pick a formula of the Class/Type 'Flavored Whisky''  I have one COLA for this class/type in for approval, but after my headaches with flavored vodka label, I do not expect it to get approved first time..

However my little experience in the real world shows that does not seem to be true..

An existing product we all know of (COLA 10146001000306 ) uses the fanciful name of 'cinnamon whisky' and the Class/Type of 'whisky with natural cinnamon flavor' on the label, In the actual COLA it says Class/Type is "Whiskey Specialties"  and in the COLAS documentation, I see  "641 Whisky Specialties"  

1 - There is no actual formula class/type entry for that 'Whisky Specialties', only for "Distilled Spirits Specialty",  is there a link or direction from the TTB that says this correlation exists?

2 - do DSP's generally shy away from 'flavored xxxx', and just use DSS?

3 - Does this allow one to skip the BAM requirements for wood chips? It seems to... but 'whisky' is on the label of the DSS product in two places... 

From the BAM:

8. TREATMENT WITH WOOD · DISCLOSURE “COLORED AND FLAVORED WITH WOOD _________” (insert chips, slabs, extracts, etc., as appropriate) is required on labels to indicate treatment with wood · APPLICATION Applies only to whisky and brandy treated – other than through contact with oak containers – with wood: -In any manner or form, either directly or indirectly, e.g., chips, slabs, extracts, etc. -At any point during the production or storage process, up to and including the time of bottling

if you make gin without using other finished spirits such as GNS, (aka - original distillation), you do not even need a formula... here is my 'Oak Barrel Gin', distilled from malted malted barley I have 'Barrel Rested Gin' in for approval, but expect kickback since they seem to have become more finicky in the past few months.

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&ttbid=15299001000367

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/publicViewAttachment.do?filename=Half Mine - Oak Barrel v2.jpg&filetype=l

and now another label kicked back  saying to remove 'with other natural flavors" from the line below 'Pepper Flavored Vodka'...   

no mention of why I cannot put that in there....

It has already been kicked back once because 'vodka flavored with peppers and other natural flavors' was misleading....

I wonder how Crisco gets away with a picture of fried chicken or cherry pie on the label?

I started putting the below in my method of Manufacture:

Quote

I have gotten formulas sent back because ingredient values were zero, to alleviate any confusion, per the following document, on multiple pages, it states:

"Note: You may enter a Quantity (Low) value of 0 (Zero)"

https://www.ttb.gov/foia/fonl-docs/create_a_new_uniform_submisssion.pdf

I may have found an issue, I went from step 2 to step 3 in  and it removed my 'notes to specialist' :-(  ...  I tried both Chrome and IE with the same results, so I copied the text to a 'notes to specialist.txt' file and added via 'upload other attachments'...

crossing fingers...

ahh, this just cam back a minute ago:

I did, in fact, already put in the 'specialist notes' that the fanciful name "Half Mine - Q" was just a fanciful name  variant of the base Brand "Half Mine"

spend your year reading and re-reading and comprehending the following,  it will be a much better use of your time:

"Production of Heavy Rums" by Rafael Arroyo

Patented Oct. 16, 1945

2,386,924

United States Patent Office 2,386,924

PRODUCTION OF HEAVY RUMS

Rafael Arroyo, Rio Piedras, P. R.

No Drawing.

Application January 13, 1943,

Serial No. 427,250