Just ban or block this guy!

On 2/27/2020 at 9:37 AM, Hudson bay distillers said:

Lots depends on where your from shipping is a killer

Angesteph,   where the hell are you?

On small order or great distance, shipping will be more than barrels.

Zak's in TN are very good and Gibbs in SW Arkansas are good but expensive.

Do you all think you have missed something?

He's going to hire an architect for a 26gallon still?

GRAVITY...siphon to SS Vessel.

My State is a 3 tier system (distillery, distributor, retailer), but State has no direct input on price at any level. What we initially found was, Our price to distributor, Distributor+30%, Retailer +30%. But each step is negotiable/variable. Distributors do seem to discount for Quantity.

I believe "Distilled from Grain" would be sufficient.

And, if you distilled your botanical in the pot, no formula is needed. Vapor and maceration require a formula.

This can't be a new problem, extending Bonded Area to warehouse/rick house.

How do the Big Boys Bond those big barn rick houses in KY?

In fact we're allowed to have locked high volume tanks outside with only a fence around them.

I'd stack my conex's outside with a fence around them and add it to Bonded area.

The variables are infinite.

Build with the number of plates it takes to get to your highest abv desired. Then you can run less reflux, or more heat, (purposely inefficient) to get back down to the lowest abv you might desire.

We bought from Paul, above. Five plates on an 8" diameter column. That's just what I decided was my sweet spot.

With more or less reflux/heat we can get 70% to 90% abv. Not very important for collecting hearts in whiskey. But with fewer plates you will have trouble controlling abv in heads and tails for separation.

Now watch carefully for a NEW COMPANY to appear. Wife's name, brother, friend, may not even be distillery related.

I have the dreaded foam over. As for it not being a problem, I'd say you have a janitor on staff.

In 170 gallon ferment I loose 20 gallons. I've had 3" of foam on 200sg ft. It's a problem for me. Ran out the damn overhead door.

I have come to believe that it is the rye's nutrient value that causes the explosive foam.

Now what if you mashed the rye separately at higher temps?

What if you added it as doses through the fermentation?

I want to increase the % of rye but fear the foam.

So, I assume, now, they want the reports from date of DSP approval and the our intended date of commencement means nothing.

Thanks DHD we will go back and send the Zero reports asap.

They are not asking for a Notice Of Commencement, which we did file. They are asking for all the reports prior to the date of commencement. hmmm...

Well, the amendment just got denied. 90 days

Basically they want the Operations reports filed from the date of  DSP Approval until the date we sent Letter of Commencing Operations.

There is a few posts about others being told that the Letter of Commence means nothing. The Letter of Commencing Operations means...?

So, I'll submit those months with all Zeros and file again. Interesting

No one sees the irony here?

360 area code...you are in Washington State?

I ended up not buying from them.

Their "New Customer" process was more than daunting. I was in a hurry and after being passed through three or four departments over two weeks, to start an account, I gave up! I wasn't asking for credit, didn't haggle on price. I did however ask for availability and agreement on shipping dates that they were unable to quote.

So, while I was accepting of their price, I'd have to say their customer service just turned me off.

While I know we are all famous and well known figures (IF ONLY AMONG OURSELVES), I would say I could save ten minutes a week if we all put a location of the product for sale in Peer to Peer sales ads.

Could be several answers.

Maybe that some of the botanical are in the pot.

Some people stop distillation and add/change the botanicals in the gin basket during a run.

Some do a combo of boiler maceration (juniper_, vapor infusion (cardamom, citrus) in the gin basket and still compound some of the smaller ingredients into the finished liquor.

It would be interesting to know how many people actually start with a base fermentation in the boiler vs low wines.

To those that have filed an amendment to drop DSP Bond, how long did it take?

My Amendment was submitted 45 days ago and is still "REVIEW IN PROCESS" and "Amendment Pending."

A pallet of glass bottles will be 700 to 1,000lbs. A pallet of bagged grain will be 1,000 - 1,200 lbs. A pallet of sugar or super sack of grain will be 2,000+.

We use a full size Kubota tractor, with forklift attachment and break it down going into the door.

Paul,

Give us a description of that mash tun (4th of 7 photos) please.

Dirck

There are different levels of expense and goals.

Trying to get rich and have a national brand will take millions and lots of employees.

Trying to make a living and have a good time will take several hundreds of thousands and the effort of 1-2 people.

If you have equipment that takes more than 8 hours to run, you'll likely need employees. So large equipment can be as bad as too small.

We planned for a start of 1.5 people, 8 hour a day operations. That meant we could run an electric still of 600L with same day fill and overnight cooling. We could mash in less than six hours, again with fill, ambient cooling and cleaning.

So, with light industrial electric (220v 400amp), 1000 sq ft, 600L still and six 600L ferment tanks gave us the ability to produce 100-125 750ml bottles per run/day if eight hours a day.

Now lets say your a big overnight success and need more production. With employees, more fermenters and forced cooling this same setup could be run three shifts a day tripling production without tripling fixed capital costs. You'd need more ferment tanks.

I believe the planning has more to do with your goals than anything else.

State by State issue.

It is possible in some States, to have an off site tasting set up. In Arkansas a DSP Permit holder must notify the State ABC 14 days prior of intention to do this.

You can get die cut labels on rolls any size and 5 kinds of substrate from 1" x 1" to 4" x 8".

Color fastness (fading) seems very good, abrasion is good, convenience is best!

The poly based labels are very nice. These companies will send you samples. Durafast, Laser Inkjet Labels