@johnmckee Hi, In Ontario Canada where I am, from what I've been told from provincial and federal personnel, once the permit application for both the AGCO and federal excise tax has been handed in, you are allowed to possess a still and do test batches. I found that weird, but I didn't second guess what two people told me. I take it the law in the states is different. if someone from Canada knows otherwise, I would love to talk with them before I do something illegal. Believe me, being in the newspaper business, last thing I need is a competing news outlet reporting on illegal activities from a competitor. BTW, our application papers are being filed in a few weeks once we sign our lease.