Sevan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hey all, I know this is a weird question as people are usually always asking how to remove haze but....... I have a product that I make with Realemon Lemon Juice that I am trying to get a stable opaque haze in. When it is blended it has a really nice opaque pastel yellow hue to it that once bottled slowly starts to drop out and within 3 week there is 1 inch of pectin/pulp on the bottom of the bottle and the above is almost crystal clear. I expected that to happen so I experimented with filtering to reduce the amount of pectin to the point where it is still opaque but not enough to fall out of suspension. I started with filtering instead of any enzyme because I didn't was to drop out all of the haze and to my surprise didn't clog the pads. I have gone through 5 batches now and with 1-4 I gradually moved to the next level of pad to further reduce haze percentage in solution. To still have it fall out until the 4th batch I filtered clear and added back a small amount of non filtered to reintroduce the haze. This was just enough to get the opaqueness I was looking for but still resulted in the haze separating out. For batch 5 this last batch I just filtered it clear like in batch 4 but didn't reintroduce any non filtered and I just do not like how it looks. Does anybody know of any additives, processes or something else that would create a stable opaque haze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Citrus oils at low proof might do it - like lemoncello. There will be a flavor impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevan Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 The proof of this product is around 40 is that too low for this suggestion?. I've read people have problems keeping the oils from separating and rising to float on the top. Is there some secret to adding citrus oil in this manner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDC Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 1:35 PM, Sevan said: Hey all, I know this is a weird question as people are usually always asking how to remove haze but....... I have a product that I make with Realemon Lemon Juice that I am trying to get a stable opaque haze in. When it is blended it has a really nice opaque pastel yellow hue to it that once bottled slowly starts to drop out and within 3 week there is 1 inch of pectin/pulp on the bottom of the bottle and the above is almost crystal clear. I expected that to happen so I experimented with filtering to reduce the amount of pectin to the point where it is still opaque but not enough to fall out of suspension. I started with filtering instead of any enzyme because I didn't was to drop out all of the haze and to my surprise didn't clog the pads. I have gone through 5 batches now and with 1-4 I gradually moved to the next level of pad to further reduce haze percentage in solution. To still have it fall out until the 4th batch I filtered clear and added back a small amount of non filtered to reintroduce the haze. This was just enough to get the opaqueness I was looking for but still resulted in the haze separating out. For batch 5 this last batch I just filtered it clear like in batch 4 but didn't reintroduce any non filtered and I just do not like how it looks. Does anybody know of any additives, processes or something else that would create a stable opaque haze? This is usually done by creating a stable emulsion of your 'haze' component and your product. There is a lot of work being done in this area by the cannabis infused beverage people, so you may get better answers looking at this from that angle. Some folks are using sonication (equipment for this is pretty spendy), and my experience is the sonicated mixture settles out eventually. There are a number of emulsifiers on the market that do different things. It sounds like you are happy with the haze that is in the product at the start, so you may just need a simple emulsifier additive. Maybe the info in this link will be helpful. https://www.newcannabisventures.com/wp-content/uploads/white_paper_ascb_v9.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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