Stone Fort Distillery Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 on a 100% rye mash using 600lbs of malted rye what would you do as a ratio for grain to rice hulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironton Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 5-10% is a good ration. Hope your mash tun is wide and not tall and skinny. Also, a beta rest at 110 deg F will help. Good luck and take it slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Fort Distillery Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 did a mash Friday night didn't put enough rice hulls and got a stuck sparge took 24 hours to get cleaned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Glucanase rest without exogenous enzyme is only marginally better than no rest when talking about rye. Additional beta-glucanase makes our rye workflow much easier. We regularly mash 100% rye, and it makes a material difference. We don't lauter, but the difference in viscosity is obvious. You are using a converted bulk tank? Try increasing the slope slightly by lifting the back end up an inch or two. Go hot on the sparge, as hot as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Fort Distillery Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 yes I am using a converted dairy tank with a 1.25 inch copper pipe with slits cut in at every inch up the middle of the tank. I am going to add some 3/4 inch arms going up the side of the tank to see if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyspirits Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Silk City Distillers said: We don't lauter, but the difference in viscosity is obvious. Based on real world experience I feel you're asking for nothing but angst and sorrow trying to lauter rye. Even with a protein rest in the mid one-teens it's problematic. Even with added beta glucan its problematic. Even with sacks and sacks of rice hulls it's problematic. I've tried and tried and it's nothing but a PITA. We now just mash/ferm/distill on grain. I give up rye, you've won. Happy New Year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We've found that whole oats with husk have a spice and boldness comparable to higher-rye content whiskies. Wonder if a rye mash bill with a good proportion of oat would make lautering rye easier, as the oat husks bloom up like flowers when wet. Oat husk/hull does a much better job than rice hulls IMHO. When we do our oat bourbon, the mash wants to self-lauter on the pump over to the fermenter. If we don't keep the mash tun on full agitation, we'll leave most of the grain behind in the mash tun. Even then, you need to keep an eye on the tun and have a paddle handy. But yeah, we ferment and distill on grain exactly for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyspirits Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, Silk City Distillers said: We've found that whole oats with husk have a spice and boldness comparable to higher-rye content whiskie Im intrigued. Ages ago I had a 100% oat whiskey from someone who I can't remember. I'd love to search a few out and give em a try. Edit: Apologies for the thread hijack. I will cease and desist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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