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    MicroLiquor Spirit Awards

    One of the biggest/most important competitions in the world, IWSC (the International Wines and Spirits Competition) in London has always requested four. So it's not -that- unusual.
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    Gin Distillation - Color

    @Davidksa : if it isn't from foam going all the way up your column (solution: use a silicon based antifoam product), it probably comes from one of the botanicals you use. One of the drinks I make is an award-winning distilled absinthe, it comes out with a beer-like yellow color.
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    Bottle washing and draining

    100 bottles a batch is no problem for the Avvinatore, you might have to change the water/whatever a few times in between but that only takes seconds. If you find a better system to drain the bottles I'm certainly interested!
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    Bottle washing and draining

    Cheapest but quite effective bottle washer you can get is the Avvinatore from Enolandia, you can find it on Ebay. That's what all the small winemakers in Europe use. Rack style bottle draining/storage is often limited indeed, I found one that holds 8 of my (wide) gin bottles even though it's designed for 25 beer bottles or 16 wine bottles.
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    Back Up Generator

    Short answer: no. Somewhat longer answer: why would I bother if power outages (>100ms <6hrs) only happen once every few years? Even if in the middle of an (electrically powered) distilling run just shut everything down and continue the day after... YMMV.
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    Odin on Gin

    I've never noticed any loss in flavour while filtering gin, jenever and ouzo/anis with it. For whisky or other wood finished products I would use a 5 micron filter followed by a 1 micron filter.
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    Odin on Gin

    Yes the stainless steel version is a good choice, although I know quite a few distilleries which use the plastic one - polypropylene (PP) can withstand ethanol without a problem. Do remember that you can't get the "Tandem Filter Housing" in stainless steel, and they advertise it as being suitable for filtering spirits ?
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    Dephlegmator Needed For London Dry Gin?

    Any potstill will do, as long as the resulting distillate is >70% ABV.
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    Odin on Gin

    Enolmatic, cheapest plastic model for wine bottles, 0.2micron inline filter. And get the optional Mignon kit if you want to fill tiny bottles as well.
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    Odin on Gin

    @needmorstuff : you can ask these suppliers for a sample, that's what I've done before I decided.
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    NGS UK Suppliers

    Do check Brenntag UK, ask for "potable alcohol". In the Netherlands Brenntag sells it under the name "Nedalco", they bought the Cargill ethanol division.
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    Starting out with a smaller still

    I would say buy a bigger but still affordable boiler. A 200L milk can boiler with 4" top port from China can be brought to the UK for less than a thousand UKP, including transport and import duties. Yes not all NGS is the same: different grains, different number of plates used... One of the stranger things I found out was that a particular one had trace amounts of particles in it, probably caused by carbon filtering and not running it through a very fine (think 0.2 micron) filter afterwards. If you dilute it to 40-45% ABV and let the bottles rest for a few months a haze at the bottom would appear. Now if you would have distilled this NGS with your botanicals it wouldn't be a problem at all.
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    Starting out with a smaller still

    You're talking about gin production, right? Quite a few UK based producers do so, ranging from nano distilleries running a 25L boiler to most of the big names. I don't, and there is growing resistance against this. But the rules certainly allow it. Oh and you need to be sure your NGS/GNS is flawless.
  14. Stills are a bit difficult to find second hand in the UK, new still with column in this size range would costs you 2.000 UKP new or more. Stainless steel collection and storage vessels are cheap, 100-200 UKP new for 100-300L. Enolmatic might be difficult to find second hand. Reverse osmosis you don't want second hand, <100 UKP if it doesn't need to be very fast. PM me for brand/vendor names.
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    Fork lift or not fork lift

    You all use cheap, lightweight bottles I guess. 1 pallet of Saverglass Neos 75cl (960 bottles) weights in at a hefty 1812lbs (822kg).
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    Genio vs. iStill

    @Still_Holler If no one replies over here just have a look at the iStill blog, you see postings about almost every distillery that has them. Just give the distillery a call or find them on Facebook. I don't have much experience with the iStill myself yet but can bring you into contact with someone who does if you can't find anyone.
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    Spirits Competitions

    No you're right, a competition has some substantial costs. Then again some people might find it profitable to organise their own competition to make a profit. As a producer you vote with your wallet, if you want a medal from a reputable competition you send your products there. If you want "any medal" just send it to the cheapest, nearest or first available competition. And as a producer you can always organise your own competition, having your local Rotary or Lions as the judges. Has been done. Not by me.
  18. "I assembled a control panel" seems pretty clear to me?
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    What states let Distllerys self Distribute?

    I think ADI has a nice list for all states, with all the details about distribution, direct sales, tasting and what not.
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    Grinding Juniper Berries

    *DON'T* grind 'm, ever. Crushing can be done but the result won't be reproducable. You can save on juniper (at the expensive of having to wait 1 or more days) by macerating as Glenlyon suggested. I don't.
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    Craft gin - 5 questions, please don't beat me up

    Well you can come to the Complete and certified distilling training by Odin in the Netherlands. And if you're a bit unlucky meet me there as well ?
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    Craft gin - 5 questions, please don't beat me up

    10-15g/l of Juniper seems about right, enough room for the other botanicals. You can macerate both juniper and coriander for one or more days in 60% before you dilute everything to get to a safe ABV to start distilling, and add your other botanicals. jenschmunk: yes, 71.3g/l is excessive.
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    Craft gin - 5 questions, please don't beat me up

    71.3g per liter of boiler content is a lot! 20-35g/l seems to be what most people use. Example: 35g x 600 L = 21kg of botanicals. That would be $273 at your prices, maybe slightly over a dollar a bottle (at .7L). If you buy some botanicals in bulk volumes the price might go down significantly. I know I spend a bit less.
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    Label Requirements for Europe

    Symbols for recycling, drink/driving and pregnancy are not a part of the European laws as specified in EU regulation 110/2008. Every country MAY introduce laws or guidelines regarding these symbols themselves, and most have done so. Example: in the Netherlands most of the big distillers are a member of the trade organisation SpiritsNL, and they ask their members to use these symbols. I'm not a member myself (and therefor not required to use them), but I do.
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    Label Requirements for Europe

    More info in fill levels in the EU: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A31975L0107
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