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  1. Southernhighlander

    Source to heat the still, electrical, NG, propane?

    It would not be an oil fired still. It would be a steam fired still with an oil fired boiler. It is very important for you to learn the correct nomenclature. Without the correct nomenclature you will continue to have communication issues.
  2. Southernhighlander

    Source to heat the still, electrical, NG, propane?

    Silk, I had a fuel oil fired boiler for my drying kiln when I owned my wood products business. It worked great but I ended up buying a wood fired boiler because it cost me a great deal less to operate than the fuel oil boiler and the federal government gave me a grant that paid 50% of the cost of the wood fired boiler. I think a fuel oil fired boiler is a great option for a distillery. I don't know why I didn't think about that. I have sold to one customer in NY that has municipal steam.
  3. Southernhighlander

    Source to heat the still, electrical, NG, propane?

    If someone references a gas fired still it means direct fire. The correct reference is steam fired by a ng boiler. I have sold 300 gallon and even 500 gallon electric baine marie stills, however in both instances the customers had huge amounts of industrial power and no access to NG. I pushed them towards one of our low pressure steam boilers fired by LP but they just would not go there. With 300 to 500 gallon stills, an ng fired boiler is your very best option 2nd best is LP. If you would like a quote for a complete system including everything except the bottling line just let me know.
  4. Southernhighlander

    Source to heat the still, electrical, NG, propane?

    Your quote looks like it came from me. For direct heat, direct fired gas is dangerous indoors. Direct fired electric is okay but you should not put in low wines only wash and you cannot have solids in the pot or they will scorch, For indirect heat a natural gas fired low pressure steam boiler is best, propane fired is 2nd best and electric steam boiler is 3rd best, my baine marie electric over steam is 4th best, oil is 5th best and hot water sucks because it is so slow. Electric costs way more than natural gas in the long run but it can take 13 years for a nat gas low pressure steam boiler to pay for itself when firing a 100 gallon still, compared to a 100 gallon electric baine marie stills energy costs. For a 300 gallon the nat gas fired low pressure steam boiler can pay for itself in 5 years. and larger stills less than 5 years.
  5. Southernhighlander

    Corson Customers Question

    Adam, 2 people have contacted me for quotes that ordered their equipment from Corson in the last year. If you will email me your contact info privately I will pass your email address along to them. Neither of them have received their equipment and neither of them expect to receive equipment. In fact the Corson Brothers told one of them that they are going out of business and will not be able to fill their order, but have not offered them their money back. Corson's web site is up and it appears they are still selling equipment. My email is paul@distillery-equipment.com
  6. Southernhighlander

    Baine Marie - Glycol?

    Yes, that makes sense. For water have your temp probe in the water in the jacket down below the 5% fill level if possible. Simple proportional heating control is best for water. If you boil the water and let the jacket fill with steam you can get faster heat up times. if you do run set point temp control to boil the water, set it at around 220F.
  7. Southernhighlander

    Baine Marie - Glycol?

    Silk, With Biodiesel we get a heat up time of 1.5hrs if we run 22kW for every hundred gallons and you are correct unless you are doing a stripping run the heat needs to be backed off from 300F to around 240F around 15 to 20 minutes before operating temp is reach. The oil temp will drop fast because the cooler mash will pull the temp down. The heat up time on my baine marie stills with water is around 2.25 to 2.5 hrs. Also here is something very important for safety reasons. If you are running biodiesel or cooking oil your control point must be the oil. The temp probe for the PID must be in the oil. If you use the mash temp as the control point you can get a run away heating situation in the jacket. The oil temp will reach its smoke point temp (little less than 500F) when it goes above that it will burst into flames. As far as circulating oil through the jacket we did that with our first couple of baine maries 7 years ago and found it to be cost prohibitive and absolutely unnecessary. Concerning my open system pressurization module (OSPM). When the OSPM is connected to the stills jacket and the jacket has 15% to 20% of its volume filled with water. The heat up to operating temp time is in between that of oil and water, because unlike a low pressure steam boiler you are starting with cold water in the jacket and so it takes a while to get up to steam, especially since the mash temp will hold the water temp down, keeping it from becoming steam longer than if something hot was in the inner pot. Once the jacket fills with steam, she will heat fast and because the heat transfer coefficient of steam is so much greater than oil, or especially glycol, you get more efficiency and you get faster stripping run times with 245F steam than with 280F oil. Since we are creating steam in an open system and using water instead of oil, I believe the OSPM is the best option for a baine marie. The OSPM has an added level of safety because if your steam pressure goes above it's intended pressure, the OSPM bleeds that pressure off to atmosphere. We also have a pressure relief valve on the jacket for safety redundancy. As far as I know, my baine marie stills with the OSPM are the only stills out there with self contained steam heating systems. Since the jacket is not a closed pressurized system, we are good to go.
  8. Southernhighlander

    Baine Marie - Glycol?

    Yes, In conjunction with the OSPM the jacket is filled to 15% or 20% of its volume with water. With the OSPM, the heat up to operating temp time is less than water but longer than oil however run times are as fast as or faster than oil. The OSPM is really great for mash tuns because you can use the jacket for both heating and cooling. You can't do that with oil.
  9. Southernhighlander

    My experience with Corson Distilling

    Idaho reporter. I have had 2 of Corson's customers contact me in the last 2 weeks or so. I will give them your contact info. Thanks for the great expose (noun) that you have done on Corson. I think you have saved a lot of people from getting ripped off.
  10. Southernhighlander

    My experience with Corson Distilling

    HedgeBird, Here is what I have discovered. If I build a front area of a site using HTML code myself, then I go to the number 1 non paid inclusion on google within a few weeks. However if I have someone else build me a site like http://moonshine-still.co then it never ranks even on the 2nd or 3rd page after 5 years. I have found this to be true time after time. I don't know why it is the case and search engine experts tell me it does not work that way but it has for me time after time. In my opinion, it does not matter how pretty your web site is, if no one sees it, then you get zero business. Being in the number one position on the first page is far more important than a pretty site with all of the bells and whistles. I do over $1,000,000.00 per year in direct catalog shopping cart sales through the distillery-equipment site and I do around $4,000,000.00 in other sales, most of which comes from that web site. My moonshine.stills site only does around $120,000.00 in direct sales from the site and I pay google add words $500.00 per month to get that. You might say look at Corson's web site. They rank very well. A company that improves search engine placement called me 1.5 to 2 years ago and they said that they had a program that would greatly improve the ranking of my moonshine still site but it would cost around $15,000.00 per year They said that Corson had been one of their customers and that they had improved Corsons ranking from 3rd page to the number one position on the first page within 4 months. They said that Corson had dropped there service and that my company was selected because it was in the same category as Corson. At that time my distillery equipment site was number 2 and Corson was number one. It was too much money and my distillery equipment site had been number one for years before Corson suddenly came out of nowhere and took the number one position. I had another web site that sold Cedar closet linings that I built in 1999. That site was number 1 on the first page of most search engines for over 10 years for the search terms cedar closet lining and cedar closet linings. That site did around $500,000.00 in sales per year. In 2010 I let a new IT guy I hired build me a great looking new site to replace my old ugly dated HTML site. All of the text was the same, same url and meta tags. Within a few months cedar closet linings.com was on the 2nd page and the sales from that site dropped by over 90%. Finally I had him replace the new site with my old ugly original site and it went back to the first page within a few months As a matter of fact i sold that company for a great price and they are still using that ugly old site because it is still on the first page of google listings when you search cedar closet lining. All of the above shows me that I am doing the right thing. My daddy always said "if it ain't broke don't fix it". I know I do things differently than most, but it works and until it starts not working, I'm sticking with it. Anyway, it's not really ugly it's just plain and dated looking. I believe that the people going there are more interested in distillery equipment than a flashy website with all of the bells and whistles.
  11. Southernhighlander

    My experience with Corson Distilling

    This sounds crazy, but Monday a guy emailed asking for a quote and stated that he needs a still really quickly because the company that he ordered from had just notified him that they are going out of business and that they will not be able to fill his order. He said that he is hoping to get his money back from them but he is not sure how that is going to turn out. I replied and asked him if the company was Corson and he said yes. It's unbelievable that they are still doing this. Their web site is still up. You would think that the Idaho AG would have shut them down by now. If you google distillery equipment, my site is normally number 1 in the organic search inclusions and Corson's site is number 2, but every once in a while Corson's site is number one. I believe that they are getting business from people who just do a google search and they like the look of the Corson stills and are just buying from them without doing any due diligence.
  12. Southernhighlander

    Baine Marie - Glycol?

    Derek, You can use water or oil but you must make sure that the jacket is open to atmosphere for either one. Water will give you a slower heat up and distilling time because 212F is as hot as you can get it at sea level. Biodiesel is the best option for a vented jacket. It will not break down as bad as cooking oil and you can run as high as 300 F, if your heating system will get it that hot. If using the biodiesel, be aware that it will expand as it is heated up. I would start out filling the jacket 3/4 full. Also make sure that there is no water in the jacket when you put in the biodiesel. If there is water in the jacket there will be a violent reaction when the water turns to steam in the oil. The reaction will cause pressure waves that cause the oil to squirt out your jacket vents and cause banging noises until the steam dissipates.
  13. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Hi Porkchop, The heat up time for a 105 with the 22,000 watt heating system with the OSPM is around 2 hrs. Run times can be as short as 5 hrs for 125 proof whiskey.
  14. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Thanks Silk. I really appreciate that.
  15. Southernhighlander

    My experience with Corson Distilling

    i am the only competitor on here who has commented. I have because their behavior really gets under my skin because I always work very hard to put myself in my customers shoes and do the best that I can for them, while these guys just destroy their customers lives. I have dealt with at least 10 of Corson's customers directly, either to help them to get their equipment working properly and or selling them equipment. It's horrible how these people have been affected. The only reason that people are still purchasing from them is because they do not know about them. If this topic is removed like you suggest then even more people will be robbed of their hard earned money. If you don't like what I have said here then you are welcome to ignore it and read only the posts from people who have been directly cheated by them. As far as character assassination: You cannot assassinate someone who has already shot themselves through the head.