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  1. Below is a picture of one of our 800 gallon Signature Series Ultra Pro Vodka Stills. The bottom picture is of Nate doing the jeweling on one of the column stands for this still. He does an incredible job. He does it all with a small pneumatic drill and 2" sanding pads. His patterns are always perfect.
  2. We have vacuum stills that will do the job for you with your hot water. Our vacuum stills allow you to distill at 150 F giving you the temperature differential that you need to have a very fast run time with hot water. If you have enough BTUs the stripping runs can be completed in as little as 2 hrs including the stills heat up time. If you are interested email paul@distillery-equipment.com
  3. Yes, we can help you. Email paul@distillery-equipment.com
  4. He does have a heckuva of a well and all his cooling costs him is the electricity for his well pump, which is almost nothing. He's also talking about buying 2 more of our 2,500 gallon stills with 2 mash tuns and 28 more 2,500 gallon fermenters. He will use the same well or another for this equipment. One of his wells supplies the water to the nearest town. It may be the same one that he uses for his distillery, but I'm not sure. Wells are cheap to have dug in rural areas, where there's plenty of water. I paid $11,500.00 to have my last well drilled here, 4 years ago. It would have cost less but I wanted it to put out at least 40 gpm so they had to go deeper. It put out 53 gpm when they tested it and it is 432ft deep. It put out 6 gpm naturally without a pump or back pressure so it could be classified as a spring. There are 2 other wells on my property here. The one for my house put out 22 gpm when tested and it's a little over 200 ft deep. There is an old well that was here when I moved here that is only 20 to 30 ft deep that's been here over 100 years and it still works. It has a hand pump. There's a lot of chicken and turkey operations south of here that have wells that put out between 40 and 80 gpm and then south of there the irrigation wells down in the bottoms put out over 100 gallons per minute for the rice farms there. A good well, with plenty of cold water, is almost always a better option, when considering costs, than a chiller. It can also be a much greener solution than having a chiller, if done correctly. Of course where there is not cold well water, a chiller is the best option for crash cooling mash and sometimes for condenser cooling.
  5. Has anyone on here had an engineer to do the work to make their distillery exempt from having the classified areas around the still etc., as per the NFPA?
  6. We don't stock them but I've heard that they work great.
  7. We import these ceramic Raschig rings by the 55 gallon barrel, in several different sizes. We keep a couple of thousand lbs of it in stock. Our prices are really good, so if anyone needs some let us know and we will quote it. We use it in several different packed column sizes, all of the way up to 12" diameter. paul@distillery-equipment.com
  8. "At the time they we were distilling water." "There were no people in the building at the time of the fire and no one was injured." I feel really bad for their loss of property. I'm glad no one was hurt. A still should never be left completely unattended, even distilling water, no matter how automated it is.
  9. dmacnz, A great, simple, common sense solution for not having to spend huge amounts of money on an ethanol storage space here in the US is to store outside the distillery. Simply store it in a UL listed stainless steel above ground tank. It is looked at the same as an above ground fuel tank. Storing ethanol this way can save tens of thousands and sometimes even hundreds of thousands of dollars. Of course some cannot do it this way because they simply do not have the outside space or they are in an area of high crime or possible social unrest, but for those who can store outside, there are huge advantages over the costs etc of building an indoor storage area. You should check and see if this is an option in Macau.
  10. We can help you. Email: paul@distillery-equipment.com
  11. Galapadoc, I'm currently finishing up Fridays emails. I saw your email and will answer it shortly. The problem with a vacuum still at your location is that your cooling water temp is too high. You would need coolant that is 53F or colder. Colder would be better, so you will need a chiller if you run a vacuum still. When you lower the boiling point of ethanol under vacuum you also lower the temperature at which ethanol will condense which means you need colder condenser coolant.
  12. We have a system that gives the best of both worlds: a vacuum still for stripping and a conventional spirit still for the final run. Our vacuum stripping stills are fast and cost only a little more than our conventional stills. Our vacuum stills can be fired by a hot water heater, hot water boiler or wood fired hydronic boiler. If you are in the right area, firing a vacuum still with wood is the most economical way to go. paul@distillery-equipment.com
  13. Galapadoc, They aren't on the web site. For information and or a quote email: paul@distillery-equipment.com. We have several sizes of vacuum stripping stills in stock. We also have short path stills and rotary evaporators that operate under vacuum as well as lab chillers that go down to -40 C, heat sources and vacuum pumps.
  14. To Silk's point. I don't understand why so many manufacturers produce stills with no insulation layer. All of our Pro Series and Signature series stills have an insulation jacket over the steam jacket on the pot. As a side note we have vacuum stripping stills that are as efficient as continuous column stills and they are also very fast and produce a great tasting spirit. Distillation takes place at 150 F so a conventional chiller or well water can be used to cool the condenser. The insulation layers on these are simple, empty jackets that we pull vacuum on. There is no actual insulation in the jacket just vacuum, which is one of the best insulators. These stills are fired by 190 F hot water circulated through the jacket. The hot water can come from a hot water heater, hydronic wood fired furnace or any other hot water source. We have them in stock up to 100 gallon capacity.
  15. Thatch, I hear you. Navanjohnson, Propane is not considered a green house gas. https://www.diversifiedenergy.com/news/how-does-propane-gas-affect-the-environment/ So it is a green solution. One of my customers has a 2,500 gallon still, 2,500 gallon mash tun, 800 gallon still, two 800 gallon mash tuns, 300 gallon still and a 300 gallon mash tun that are all fired with the steam from a 10,000,000 BTU, propane fired, low pressure steam boiler. His propane tanks are huge but everything works great. He uses well water for his condenser cooling. His well also supplies the water for the town that is near his facility. He never hired an engineer. He didn't need to. I sold him the equipment and gave him all of the specs and cut sheets and his contractors used the spec sheets for the build out. He probably saved over $1,000,000.00 by not hiring an engineer. Most likely an engineer would have suggested that he use chillers instead of his well water which is one reason why he saved so much. However this is not to say that engineers are not needed for building distilleries. Some situations require an engineer.
  16. Thatch, He's saying that his power comes from coal fired power plants. As far as wind and solar, a 1000 gallon stripping still, 1000 gallon mash tun and 300 gallon spirit still need at least 500,000 watts of power. With solar panels at 400 watts per panel that would be 1,250 solar panels. There are no small to mid size windmills available (that I know of) that will produce that amount of power. This is enough power for 30 to 50 homes. also you would need enough batteries to store at least 3 days of energy for the distillery for when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining so that would mean a battery or batteries that can store 1,500,000 watt hours of power. This is why solar and wind are not feasible for industrial power without either huge amounts of storage or other power sources such as natural gas fired power plants, nuclear power plants and or hydroelectric power plants.
  17. I agree with Golden Beaver. Circulate the pond water through your condensers and back into the pond. You can handle the crash cooling the same way. No chiller needed. Get you a 30 gpm pump. No engineering is needed. For heating a natural gas fired low pressure steam boiler is the best and propane second best, from a cost prospect.
  18. If you want a good neutral and to get the most 190 or above spirit out of the low wines, run 40% to 50% low wines through 20 plates.
  19. Silk, I agree with all of your points concerning worm condensers. We do not offer them on any of our stills and when someone asks about a worm condenser, I try to talk them out of it and if I can't then I accept no liability and I have the purchaser sign an agreement releasing me of all liability, in case an accident occurs.
  20. Throughput is just the term that I use and it is the volume of steam that can pass through the valve in a given span of time. For pressure relief valves for steam, it is given in lbs of steam per hr and it is on the valve's tag. For a steam jacket, the valve must be a section VIII ASME rated valve of the proper PSI and lbs of steam per hr capacity. Most steam fired stills are fired with low pressure steam so the PRVs for the steam jacket pop at 15psi. The steam jackets on stills generally operate at around 14 PSI or less. To size, you calculate the lbs of steam per hr that the jacket is receiving and you size the PRV over that. Our safety manual states that the output for the jacket PRVs should be plumbed into a drain, For the inner pot of our stills we use a 5 psi PRV with the same lbs of steam per hour rating as the PRV on the jacket. The PRV for the inner pot will have a larger bore size (my term) than the steam jacket PRV because the lbs per hr rating on the inner pot PRV are for 5PSI not 15 psi. We put a 2nd 5psi PRV of the same lbs per hr rating as the one on top of the pot at the top of the distilling column on the pot. We put the 2nd PRV at the top of the column because the PRV that is on top of the pot may clog if there are solids in the mash. So if you have a pot still and you don't have a PRV at the top of the column and you run mashes with solids, you really need that 2nd PRV.
  21. Hi Doc, It is 13'6" tall with the vodka column set up like the pic. If we offset the 6' vodka section and increase it's height to 7' add then add a dephlegmator, we can get the height down to 8'5" but we would need a column condensate pump kit to get the correct functionality, and that being the case we can could lower the Vodka column so that the height would be 7'6". The column condensate pup kit would cost an extra $2,500.00. The still would be 28" deep by 5'10" wide.
  22. They may very well have a PRV on the top of the pot in the back but that would not be enough, in my opinion. Also I have seen hot water heater PRVs on most of the homemade stills that I have encountered. A pressure relief valve for a 50 gallon hot water heater does not have the throughput for a 100 gallon still's contents. There is more involved in PRV sizing than just psi but many people do not know that. I'm not saying this accident was caused by a lack of PRVs or VRVs. I have no idea what went wrong with their still. I will say however that the last 4 out of 5 distillery accidents that I have researched occurred around stills that were either homemade or that were modified by the owners. I'm not saying that home built stills are always unsafe. There are some people out there that have built some good, safe stills themselves, however there are some home built stills that are flat out dangerous.
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