Hudson bay distillers

ya i agree those look cool . i see there actually gas fired . if they were wood fired would there not be a huge risk of sucking vapour into the fire box . 

tim 

morning gustav are these tanks made of cypress . 

tim 

i may be wrong but victoria spirits may have the german built still im thinking of . 

would be interesting to see pics of what your thinking paul . in this area they would never allow a person to run a still outside of the building . however if it was set against a wall with the fire box accessed from the outside of the building and no  chance of open flame inside the building you may have something . i have seen hydronic stoves that are in building and accessed from the outside , they worked good , all mess and fire outside and any waste heat is used in the building . i beleive there is a German made still that burns wood , however i dont know how they get around the risk of the stove sucking in a potential vapour leek . interesting stuff . 

tim 

 you bet i think barley will work fine , not sure about corn but luckily we have no corn around here . 

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i take it you have seen these before silk , have you ever seen one used for dewatering grain . 

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thanks silk that makes perfect sense good advice  , what do you think of the idea of putting a false bottom in that weir box so that it only holds 5 or 10 gallons  . that top box is 51 inches deep and 28 inches wide by 22 inches the other way . my rough calculations is thats about 136 gallons of liquid . and im thinking it would be full of spent grain  by time a guy ran a batch thru , we would be going from shovelling the mash tun to shovelling the hydraseive . scooping out a bit at the end wouldnt be a biggy but i think 136 gallons would suck lol .  maybe welding in a false bottom would distribute the material evenly like you mentioned and only have a small amount of spent grain held up to be cleaned out at the end . 

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thanks Paul . we raise sled dogs but kim always has a pet red bone coon hound kicking around lol . 

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thanks mr Dehner if you have any ideas on how you would set it up or modify it please do . i started another thread about the hydrasieve so not to offend 3 oaks . 

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i ll sure try and make a video when its up and running , as far as volume is concerned i cant find any accurate info because it all depends on the material your dewatering and the concentration of solids . the recommendations from the manufacturer cover everything from sewage waste plants to distilleries .  what type of grist were you working with    michaelangelo , and if your set up didnt work what did you end up using . 

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had a great discovery while acid bathing the hydraseive ......three wing nuts and tada the screen can be lifted up for easy cleaning of screen and collection area . im super impressed with the quality of the construction of this unit . 

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here a update on the hydrasieve static screen . we decided to go for it and give it a try .

we have some modifications in mind they will all depend on how well it works as is . if it works as is then we wont mess with it .

the first modification will be the clear water discharge, we will be adding triclamp fittings instead of screw in pipe thread . next will be to add a 2 inch pipe with holes or T's in it to the top of the weir . from the factory it is designed to pump into a small holding tank at top then over flow the weir and down the screen . this in my mind would end up with solids build up in bottom of holding tank that would then need to be cleaned . so i think pumping to the top of the weir will keep solids out of the holding tank , one less thing to clean out . next modification if need be will be to change the stand it sits on to one that is hinged giving us the ability to tilt it back decreasing the angle and slowing down the rate  the grain falls . slower it falls the more time it has to drop the water thru screen . now if the grain is still to wet we have the ability to  tilt it way back add rubber spring blocks to the mounting frame and then add vibrating motor , then like a vibrasieve rely on vibration and a slight angle to move solids down the screen instead of just gravity . 

now if it still doesn't do the job we want then im out of bright ideas , lets just hope it will work as is with no modifications of the rate the solids come down .  

as far as setting it up to work with the mash tun here the plan .... when the third water is ready to be discharged from the mash tun  the slury  of third water and spent grain is pumped out of the mash tun thru the hydrasieve and returned to the mash tun as it circulates the third water can be sprayed around to wash the solids out and give the mash tun a quick rinse . eventually all the solids should be out and third water can remain in the mash tun as tomorrows first water and temp maintained over night .  now because were loosing water volume to hydrating the next batch of grist  we can rinse the hydrasieve with hot pressure water to clean it.  add that water to the third water volume to bring  to the level we need for next mash . at a rate of 30 gallons per 100 water temp should be stable enough to be easily held over till morning when it will be  circulated from the mash tun thru the grist hydrator  with new grist and away we go again . 

now im sure there will be some changes in the process as we go along as it always is when adding a new piece of kit so if anyone can spot a flaw in the pre plan please share . good advice always trumps trial and error . 

tim 

 well today we brought this unit home sure hope it works ,,needs big acid bath and some mods on the plumbing and should be ready to give it a try . im thinking we may need to modify the bottom so that we can tilt it back to slow the solids down if there coming off to wet . time will tell . 

tim 

very good post avak . how tall is the packed section of ur stripping column . 

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silk i agree totally , we jus went thru that here , one outfits lack of professionalism sparked a recall of product  that started the govt on a rampage on all the rest in the industry . running a still running a still , during heat up or production all the technology in the world doesn't replace a operator .   

over the years i have done jobs in live gas plants ,gas wells, distilleries , breweries , extraction plants , hexane plants , and hydrogen plants . never has anyone ever mentioned that a cell phone poses any risk . i think you have nothing to worry about , if anyone tells you your at risk tell them to prove it . 

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curious where are you sourcing your corks 

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where are you from . i may be able to help you . 

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once again pete you have schooled me up i walk away smarter from talking to you thank you . i love simple solutions that cant fail . 

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thats good info pete thanks . would be logical to say one pound of water will give you one pound of back pressure . 

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pete your video is genius that is a system that cant fail . how did you determine how much water to put in the pipe . 

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ya i ll keep you posted if we go ahead with it , wish i knew the pro and cons of running one ahead of time . 

tim 

were not really settled on a price yet but if im sure it will work i plan on going to look at it closer , it comes out of a shut down brewery so im hoping it will work with our mash bill . 

hello jay hows things way down there .

tim 

morning all , i was wondering if anyone has had any experience with a hydra sieve static screen . we have a chance to pick one up and any info would be great . our mash bill is 100 % barley and a 3 water infusion mash , mash tun has lauter pipes  for first and second water . were hoping to use hydra sieve for third water , this would allow us to pump third water and spent  grain out of the mash tun as a slurry  instead of having to shovel it out .  it seems like this would solve the brain twizzler of shovelling spent grain , makes sense in my mind but there lots of things bouncing around in my mind that only make sense in there .  

https://www.andritz.com/products-en/group/separation/screens-drains-presses/hydrasieve-static-screen

tim