Hudson bay distillers

you may want to be more specific as to the size and use, are you talking commercial batch equipment or home distilling use . also may help if you specify what product you plan on making also where your located this forum has a huge following covering the entire globe . there are some very well stocked vendors that im sure can help you as well as some very good used goodies that show up . hope find what your looking for . 

tim

so now im curious would that chart still work seeing as milk weighs different than mash and mash weighs different depending on its grain content . cuz i see the chart is calibrated on milk weighing 8 lbs per gallon . 

thanks silk that makes sense its really not a big deal its worked this long with out knowing exact measurements lol jus was figuring some one in the group would know about these tanks .

tim 

thanks guys we got the tank from a brewery that was using it for propagating yeast and they never had any info on it , i ll try that link see what i can find out . 

tim 

here a pic of the inside of the tank if that helps 

hello i was wondering if there anyone with experience useing bulk milk coolers could explain to me how to interpret the numbers on the dipstick . the tank is 425 gallons and the dipstick goes up by small increments of 4 till 32 then starts again . as in 2,4,6,8 and so on till it reaches 32 , then it marks one and then starts over again and marks 2 ect ect till the top where it ends on 27 . the tank is a john wood insulated tank with a refrigeration unit attached .  

i think ur bang on the answer tom , around here i have never heard of some ones barley being rejected because of it nor have i heard of anyone testing there grain before using it for cattle or hog feed . often grain will be rejected due to high protein count or poor germination ability  , this drops the grain from raw malt price to feed price . we have mashed barley that has to high of protein and its a foaming night mare . grain rejected because of poor germination does not affect us . anyway back to the original question screener vs cleaner i think were just going to replace the cleaner . best as i can tell there not much time saving between the two . 

so new question you guys out there that are buying field grain or utilizing grain off your own farms (farm distillery) what brand of cleaners are you using and are you happy with it or what brands are best . the one we had was a premier made by defasco . it lasted good done good job but maybe there are better ones out there . 

tim 

im sure the malt plant does test for DON why wouldnt they lol but im positive farmers feeding cattle sure dont . as i said before the grain im talking about is grain that has bin passed and approved by the malt plant , see if a producer has a contract for 10 000 bushels but he combined 15 ooo bushels he is stuck with 5000 bushels of grain the malt plant wont buy . that grain is either going to sell as unmalted malt barley or as regular open market barley ...this is what makes it a cheep commodity some years as low as 4 bucks a bushel . its all about contract grain . 

tim 

http://westernmalt.webs.com/brochure.htm     check these guys out charles . good outfit to deal with by the bag or by the ton . if iwas you i would run a test batch one with malted wheat and one with raw wheat converted with enzymes , to see if the extra expense of malting changes anything to the taste your looking for . last mountain distillers in lumbsden sask has a incredible wheat whisky but im not sure of there grain bill , great western brewery in saskatoon sask uses malted wheat for a all grain beer , and im guessing there both getting it from western malt . i guess it all depends on where you are located lol .

tim 

ok not sure what i did to make it post that twice but anyway . glad to hear your getting urs cleaned tom  maybe delivered clean would be a option have to check into it  . thatch the cheep grain im talking about isnt cheep quality it is overage on malt barley contracts to the malt plant it has already been tested and approved by the malt plant it jus has not been malted or cleaned .some years there is alot of extra over and above the contract that makes the raw grain price drop making it very affordable grain .  the issue ur talking about may appear in feed barley but i have never even heard of this being a issue even in feed barley or feed wheat . there would be dead cattle everywhere if it showed up in feed grain cuz nobody tests there feed grain for anything . 

so back to original question thatch do u run ur grain thru a cleaner before milling . thanks 

tim 

hey guys in response , my grain cleaner crapped out just plain wore out .  not sure of the cost per bottle to clean grain that's not the issue its time in a day issue . and now replacing the cleaner issue  . some have said they dont clean there field grain other than screening out things that will damage the mill , so i'm thinking am i wasting my time and money replacing and running the cleaner . 

as far using unmalted field grain GR it is definitely a cost plus bonus to stick with a grain bill of 30 % malted grain and 70 % unmalted field grain no matter if its harrington barley or wheat . some years grain right out of the field is dirt cheep and we can buy it on its way to the malt plant , however the price of malt doesnt seem to drop . lots of local producers have contracts to the malt plant but are willing to sell off anything over and above there contract for cash verses selling it on open market for less than contract price .  im sure most distilleries use unmalted grain in there mash bill other than single malt or scotch styles . 

the question is are they runing it thru a cleaner first lol 

thanks 

tim 

hey guys in response , my grain cleaner crapped out just plain wore out .  not sure of the cost per bottle to clean grain that's not the issue its time in a day issue . and now replacing the cleaner issue  . some have said they dont clean there field grain other than screening out things that will damage the mill , so i'm thinking am i wasting my time and money replacing and running the cleaner . 

as far using unmalted field grain GR it is definitely a cost plus bonus to stick with a grain bill of 30 % malted grain and 70 % unmalted field grain no matter if its harrington barley or wheat . some years grain right out of the field is dirt cheep and we can buy it on its way to the malt plant , however the price of malt doesnt seem to drop . lots of local producers have contracts to the malt plant but are willing to sell off anything over and above there contract for cash verses selling it on open market for less than contract price .  im sure most distilleries use unmalted grain in there mash bill other than single malt or scotch styles . 

the question is are they runing it thru a cleaner first lol 

thanks 

tim 

hello i was curious when useing raw unmalted feild grain are others runing it thru grain cleaner before grist mill or jus a basic screaning and magnet to remove big rocks and metal combine parts . any pros and cons to cleaning or not cleaning . thanks 

tim 

ya for sure cattle will drink stillage so do pigs ......google poundmakers agventures 

dont worry they will eat the spent grain and drink the stillage just fine , spent grain is usually mixed with fresh grain and silage they wont even notice the difference . 

tim 

im curious if ur product is 65 percent it should burn ....dump a bottle and lite the empty bottle it should burn off the alcohol in the bottle does the film on the glass remain or is it gone 

tim 

 hello i was wondering if any one has and experience or review of the electric parrot tha still dragon sells , thanks 

tim 

our engineer told us that 6 air changes per hour is the base line for sizing ventilation fans . not sure if that helps . 

tim 

MG you sure know your stuff ,,,,huge asset to this forum 

tim

personally i cant afford an electrician so we raised one lol he has his red seal i ll forward him this thread and see if he can venture a guess . 

tim 

did u test the gravity with a refractometer or hydrometer . bear in mind tasting sweet can be deceptive to determine conversion the same enzymes that convert starch in your mash is also in your mouth so are you tasting sweet because its converted or are u tasting sweet because it converting  in your mouth lol . 

tim 

there ya go tons of good info .....where in canada are you from 

nice id say one tote of water wont keep up to them lol your PC temp is one thing but remember your deflag needs to be fed with a constant source with little to no variation in temp or pressure . i would think you would need a serious cooling system to pull it off with a tote full of water . there is a member on here called MG thermal systems [hope i got that name right sorry if im wrong } that could set u up and would know the math off top of his head hopefully he chimes in seems very knowledgeable with these city type setups . if u get tired of the city hassel ill make you a good deal on a country property with its own well . cant beat free water with a view lol 

tim   

how big is your still

depending what town your in as long as its built by a plumber or signed off by a plumber inspections shouldnt be a worry ...guess it depends what province ur from 

tim