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  1. Another common problem, which causes costs to rise - is that when you are dealing with contractors, local gov't etc - as soon as you tell them you are opening a distillery - they make two instant assumptions... you are rich and you are going to make lots of money. At this point, they are mentally adding zeros to their quote as they tell you how great your idea is.
  2. Absolutely, that's how we did it.
  3. Interesting to hear about the Alaskan experience. When I got started, we were thinking small and that we could get off the ground for song. We used to joke about the cost of getting into the business was the same as buying a used pick-up truck! Famous last words! Many hundreds of thousands of dollars later - I say, expect to spend at least $500K to start, even for a small operation. We're finally making sales now, but it was a long two years of getting underway.
  4. If you love distilling as a hobbyist - think about it very carefully before opening a real distillery. A small distillery is a ton of work, so what used to be enjoyable on a rainy Sunday afternoon, now becomes something you have to do everyday whether you want to or not. Understanding this and assuming you have previous business experience, the booze business is a good place to be. If this is your first foray into business, tread carefully, it can get very expensive, very fast.
  5. That's for sure
  6. In Canada, the right to own a distillery is tied to the address of the aforementioned distillery. It would be strictly against the rules to set up a still elsewhere. Not to mention, distilling other people mashes/washes would be very problematic. This would not be allowed in our jurisdiction.
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    hydrasieve

    Hey Tim, this sounds really interesting - do you have any idea as to the cost?
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    New startup question about setting up

    This is a great gin still, but not on for a daily driver. Its a drag to clean.
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    Thermocouple - Wifi Data-Logger

    Just a quick note. Thermoworks has their wifi data loggers on sale right now.
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    Glycol Loop Material

    Pex is perfect - but, the copper looks way cooler when mounted
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    Thermocouple - Wifi Data-Logger

    These guys have what you are looking for... www.thermoworks.com
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    Glycol Loop Material

    I was quite concerned about that up front and had a number of discussions with the plumber and associated inspectors around the topic. However, it has proven to be an excellent system and it is completely closed. It would take a (no doubt predictable), series of unfortunate events to get the cooling water to mix with the product and if that happened, I would consider human error as the prime suspect.
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    Glycol Loop Material

    Our loop consists of copper within the building and 400' of 1" plastic water pipe submerged in the cooling pond. Although we designed the system originally for glycol, in the end we used water mixed with about 15-20% denatured ethanol. This has proven to be a very efficient system that's easy to disconnect and modify. Even if some of the water escapes, we have an automatic pressure tank to re-fill the system as required. With this system we can run two stills and our heat exchange/cooler at the same time without any problems. Also, we have the hot water return running through the floor of the tasting room which in turn serves to use some of that waste heat on heating the room in the winter. Works great!
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    Ownership Structure

    Businesses come in two classes - right some shades and cheap sunglasses. In other words, you have investment grade startups and you have founder's grade startups. Investment grade companies are usually funded by investors and are designed to enrich the aforementioned money men. Founder's based business are there to fund the lifestyle of the founders. The first thing you need to do is decide which one you want to start. If you have a business or law degree and years of working with investors in a corporate situation and you are starting a larger operation in a bigger market then you are in good shape to handle the demands of your investors. If one the other hand, you have no previous experience dealing with investors and you have only creativity, leadership and sweat to offer - then you have no skin in the game. So, the moment you fail to meet a construction goal or you go over budget on something or miss or a sales/production target you are always running the real risk of being watching your company disappear over the horizon without you. You will always lose out to the investors in those situations. So, the moral of the story? Write a comprehensive business plan. Figure out what you really need. You may find you actually have the money or you may find it much cheaper from the bank. Who, probably won't want to lend to you, but if they do - you'll be a lot happier in the long run.
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    Question About Spirit Definition Legalities

    It takes a lot more effort to clean up after a smaller distillery than a larger one. If you are too small - you'll put a ton of work into a tiny unprofitable output. Its OK to be small - just not too small. If you love the hobby, be careful starting a distillery. The romance fades quickly and the work is unending.
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