MG Thermal Consulting

I have an associate that has been looking for a vintage copper still for a client- 500 Gal minimum.

Does anyone know of where I could send out feelers?

I do have someone down here in the SE that does all sorts of ag grain handling & silos all the way to production (flour/sugar/etc) feed systems and controls.

(we were laughing- he grew up in KY and remembers his Grandpas 'Ol still fondly, ahem)

Mike

Good luck!

I had to go back and forth from the "bootheel" a few times.

Let me know if you need any ideas on chilling.

Mike

If the buyer needs any cooling (chiller) ..drop me a line, I've got new available ina couple weeks and a few used (not checked out yet).

Regards,

Mike

Welcome and you're one of quite a few start-ups in Upstate NY.

I've been in discussions with a few on their cooling solutions and how to spread those $$ as thin as can be.

I am from Corning but traveled up to Rome on my sales trips to Syracuse when I lived in Buffalo..

Much success and contact me if you are looking at any cooling solutions.

Mike Gronski

678-773-2794

Welcome Mark!

If you are in need of cooling/heating equipment, check out my website or give me a shout.

(Spent many a cold winter up the road from you in Buffalo (Hamburg)- the real snow belt.)

Regards,

Mike

678-773-2794

OK,

Looks like you have what you need.

I am picking up a couple 1.5 Million BTU boilers for resale that were taken at a plant auction. If your needs were somewhat larger, this would do the trick, plus some!

What yo would do with the boiler is to us its pump to circulate one side of a brazed plate heat exchanger and pass city water on the other side of the exchanger to point of use.

Regards,

Mike

I have a few people I work with- one for cooling limited to 40F supply and a couple others for below freezing supply.

Please send me an email so I can send you back some spec sheets.

Also, please let me know your projected time frame as lead times vary from stock to better than 8 weeks from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Mike

My rental guy also has a couple rental boilers he wants to sell, a 6 Mil and a 4 Mil output, gas fired.

Please contact me for details.

Mike

I am looking at a few chillers I am going to have reconditioned and I think there are a couple boilers around too.

Are you going with new?

Equipment is shipped from NE of Atlanta.

If you are interested in any, give me a shout.

Mike Gronski

678-773-2794

Hyno,

The chillers are waiting for evaluation to determine value & price.

I will forward details when I get that done.

They are both 5 HP, indoor rated (not able to be run outdoors at cold temps) & not weatherproof.

One is on casters and the other frame formed floor mount.

Each has a 20 gal reservoir and circulating pump.

One can run from 30F to 60F, requires appropriate glycol mix below 45F.

The other was built for 20F supply, so with that info, it will run at lower supply temps (20 to 35F) but above that, the compressor would likely overheat.

Pics and operating condition to follow.

Right now my new 5 HP chillers run between $10 and 11.5K, depending on options, so depending on condition, they will be priced accordingly.

Mike

678-773-2794

I will be checking out 2-5 HP air-cooled chillers, portable indoor type, with pumps, for resale in the next four weeks or so.

They are late '90s and need checking out before being put on the market.

They will be shipped out of Atlanta, GA.

Give me a shout i you have any questions.

Regards,

Mike

678-773-2794

Ben,

If you get into a closed circuit cooling system, let me know.

The warm weather pushes some systems from city water to closed loop.

Mike

Hi from your neighbor here in GA.

Good Luck!

If you need some budgeting on cooling equipment, give me a shout.

Looks good! I agree things are picking up...lots of interest in refrigeration chillers due to increasing production, quicker cooling and water/utility savings. That and summer coming with warmer city water!

Right now I can get 2-4 week lead times on chillers, but that won't last too long.

If you have any installs near Atlanta, I'd love to see one up and running.

Mike

678-773-2794

Like stated above, there are economical electric water heaters for water temps up to 250F.

These have carbon steel wetted surfaces on pump and heater casing.

When you jump up to stainless cabinetry, stainless water surfaces and hazard-proof wiring for a 4.5 or 9 Kw heater with 3/4 HP pump you suddenly go from an$1,800 unit to something much more than a small boiler.

My suggestion would be to get a hot water boiler with circulator pump, using it with a brazed plate exchanger (all stainless) and stainless pump (or city water pressure) to make the hot water above the 180F mark.

The economical temperature controller can also be piped to the brazed plate exchanger in the same manner.

These solutions are sure to be over $3,000, so depends on your budget.

I doubt the payback for a vfd on the pump would be worth it, but if you have the controls to support it, go for it.

Don't use the vfd directly with a chiller, however, a chiller operates with a constant flow once set up.

Discharge ball valve most common. Make sure you have pressure gauge piped in and pump curve so you can see what your output is.

I used to rep them years ago- I used them for wineries when I was in NY. They sell through HVAC reps mostly these days since they were sold off.

Let me know if it doesn't work out for anyone and I can quote you on similar products- a) one where you get the chiller, then field add on a reservoir (large or small reservoir) which is FOB Charlottesville, VA or another either with or without reservoir which is FOB Buffalo, NY. Can't come close to that price, tho!

Mike Gronski

www.mgthermalconsulting.com

I have sold X-prf chillers to fragrance manufacturers in the past and the amount of answers- "what happens if this happens" amount to pages and pages of replies.

There are so many requirements that are taken for granted as "standard" simply because of serendipity and a one in a million chain of events happening causing a bad accident.

I am fairly certain that the "chain" is difficult to remain linked so the worst doesn't happen, but you can imagine if "luck" doesn't intervene.

I am not sure, I haven't supplied these for some years, but the people at BAsco Api should be able to tell you shell side material.

My cohort build some of the chillers I use near Harrisonburg, VA.

He does his own service as well.

If you come up with a cooling requirement issue, give me a shout.

Mike Gronski

MG Thermal

www.mgthermalconsulting.com

I was wondering the same thing.

Mike

Just a word to the wise...contractors do the building and not he consulting (for size purposes) unless they have a PE onboard or someone to sign off if situations become marginal.

Liability becomes an issue and when someone tells me they are "popping" reliefs whether it be steam, refrigerant, etc...I wonder why and who sized the system if something bad happens (like the relief sticking).

Good general info, anyway.

Good luck.

Mike

Hi,

I can supply X-proof electric for either 180F or 250F max temp and "hot oil" high pressure to 550F.

This set-up pumps heat transfer fluid to and from the jacket.

Available from 8 KW 460/3/60 and up (230/3/60 special).

X-proof is expensive, and priced per quote.

Comes with a PID type controller.

If you have a good rate on electric power, you may see the payback, otherwise it is a matter of convenience and space saving.

Regards,

Mike Gronski

MG Thermal

www.mgthermalconsulting.com