Wasn't trying to be a bully, and I don't recall saying anything insulting. It's seems a bit odd that someone would make such claims as the OP did without saying who they are or leaving some contact info? Sorry if folks are a bit sensitive, but open forums like this leave a lot of room for people to mislead others with misrepresentation of who they are. I've been run around by a few folks who are trying to get in on the fact that new start-ups will need to spend a bunch of money. I'm not claiming that's what the OP Is doing, I was just poking at them to get them to drop the bull-shit and come with some transparency, mostly because we are neighbors, and the services he listed could be of interest to me. Anybody who has actually sorted through the bullshit and laid down there $ could understand this. Anybody who is a real buisness, with real credentials as stated by the OP , wouldn't get cought up with me in some silly little tit fot tat forum bullshit. Hey Jax, u ever price what marketing, design, branding or any of this stuff costs from a reputable firm? It's 10s of k's of $. So, you can worry about my grammar ifn yant to? But I'm actually a distillery weeding through the bullshit that is out there so I can hire the right folks for the job when needed. No harm intended to the OP, lets move on.