detroitdistiller Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 what do you guys do with the heads? any use for them? i can't imagine the drain is acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 This is hearsay rather than personal experience, but bottle it and use it (or sell it) as lighter fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 How about burning it in your gas tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tom Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 How about burning it in your gas tank? Heads from what, Vodka, or whiskey? Vodka throw them out or polish windows. Whiskey put them back in the next run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles@AEppelTreow Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 As a cidery/winery - I put them in a spray bottle and use them to sanitize the bottler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue distiller Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I have been using them in my car. Iworks really great and I save a couple of bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grehorst Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I have been using them in my car. Iworks really great and I save a couple of bucks. Are you using an E85 vehicle? Any concerns regarding water content? Do you "dry" the heads out before adding it to gas? What kind of ratio between gas and heads do you run? It's a great idea, I'm just a little nervous about damaging the fuel system... thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Are you using an E85 vehicle? Any concerns regarding water content? Do you "dry" the heads out before adding it to gas? What kind of ratio between gas and heads do you run?It's a great idea, I'm just a little nervous about damaging the fuel system... thoughts? I am using some heads in my truck, 2000 Dodge. I use about 1 pint to each tank full of gas. Works great for injector cleaner. Coop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grehorst Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I am using some heads in my truck, 2000 Dodge. I use about 1 pint to each tank full of gas. Works great for injector cleaner. Coop Interesting, I may just have to try this... maybe my daughters car ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue distiller Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I use about 40% re distilled heads per tank and put though a drying agent with out any conversion to my car. I get about 23 mpg. The only problem I see so far is hard starts on cold days but other than that no problem and a big drop in gas cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gverseityillery Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 What type of a drying agent do you use and what % alcohol are you at? Thanks for the great topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue distiller Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I get the drying agent from milehigh and use 5lbs for 5 gallons. It ends up being about 97%. I have used lower than this without much problem (90%) my car just sputtered abit more in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gverseityillery Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I get the drying agent from milehigh and use 5lbs for 5 gallons. It ends up being about 97%. I have used lower than this without much problem (90%) my car just sputtered abit more in the morning.Can you give the website for the above product? I tried a search and did not come up with a site to buy the product (although I did learn much about the mile high club) Thanks Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue distiller Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 http://www.milehidistilling.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 As a cidery/winery - I put them in a spray bottle and use them to sanitize the bottler. Charles, After you have distilled your fine apple wine into a finer apple brandy... what are you doing with what is left of the charge. I have been told that the left over makes an excellent herbicide, though I'm not sure by what action it kills. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles@AEppelTreow Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Charles,After you have distilled your fine apple wine into a finer apple brandy... what are you doing with what is left of the charge. I have been told that the left over makes an excellent herbicide, though I'm not sure by what action it kills. Ken Just to be clear - Guy is doing my distilling for the moment. I asked the State the wrong question when I was setting up and wound up with a small still and DSP I can't use because of a regulatory conflict with my cidery tasting room. :-( Hypothetically, I would run it down the drain and it gets sprayed onto a soybean field. (Like all the rest of the cidery rinse.) The spent 'wash' from apple and pear tastes awful. I think you might be able to make a jelly out of cherry - better remaining flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Cassell Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 This topic has appeared multiple times on the board, and all the comments back are great and cool.....but only total a couple of gallons here and there. Does anyone know what "the big boys" do with thier stuff in the US? I know myself and a few others that have drums and drums and drums and drums of heads and tails. Sure you can put some back into the next distillation....but obviously you only put a band aid on a long term bleeding artery because sooner or later, you still have a ton to get rid of at some point. Anybody know what Hangar in doing? Or any other guys that have been doing this for a decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaware_phoenix Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 My guess is sell it to make denatured alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grehorst Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 This topic has appeared multiple times on the board, and all the comments back are great and cool.....but only total a couple of gallons here and there. Does anyone know what "the big boys" do with thier stuff in the US? I know myself and a few others that have drums and drums and drums and drums of heads and tails. Sure you can put some back into the next distillation....but obviously you only put a band aid on a long term bleeding artery because sooner or later, you still have a ton to get rid of at some point.Anybody know what Hangar in doing? Or any other guys that have been doing this for a decade? We're by no means big, but we aren't about to dump them down the drain, so we collect a few months worth and pay to have them hauled off. I've been told if you produce enough you can sell them. When they leave us they get redistilled, seperated and are used to produce various solvents. These guys pick up ours- http://www.brenntag.com/en/ and they have offices around the US. There are many environmental services companies that will haul it away for you- check your local phonebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classick Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I get the drying agent from milehigh and use 5lbs for 5 gallons. It ends up being about 97%. I have used lower than this without much problem (90%) my car just sputtered abit more in the morning. Hey Rogue... have you seen this? http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=coldstart I too am looking for what to do with our heads... we are producing several products where our heads are already above 182 proof, so collecting isnt an issue, but trying to figure out what to do with it is a different question. I have a newer model Nissan frontier, as well as a honda 1000rr motorcycle. If i could use my heads in either one of those vehicles, that would be awesome.. i hate seeing alcohol of any quality go down the drain... seems like such a waste. Anyone know of companies that would buy ethyl alcohol in the san francisco bay area? seems like the alternative fuel crowed should be pretty big here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You could always purchase a quantity of Zeolite or other molecular sieve and dehydrate your heads. You can use it to stretch your fuel without having to retrofit to burn pure ethanol or e85. I recall that there are other discussions out there in the interwebs that break down what kind of dilution will work before it becomes a modification issue. In effect, you have octane booster on your hands (checking the label will reveal that it's typically ethanol, methanol, or a combination). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMacaw Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 A note on using heads as a sanitizer.... just like with wood alcohol (isopropyl) it is a more effective sanitizer at 75% than higher. If you aren't diluting it, you are just wasting alcohol and being less effective. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tupper Lake Distillery Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'm not American so I'm confused by your terminology. By "heads" are you referring to "foreshots" which is the first thing out of the still or the actual "heads" which is the first 3rd or first 5th cut? The reason I ask is because what I've always referred to as the foreshots, make cleaners/fuel whatever. But the "heads" are everything down to your "heart" cut around 58-60% in a potstill. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninWV Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Resurrecting an old thread...... Guy, How do you record your heads and tails alcohol that you have picked up by Brenntag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewKulsveen Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 You can add your heads & tails to the fermenter just prior to entering the still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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