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    Product of Canada - claims

    Product of Canada Claims permit " Very low levels of ingredients that are not generally produced in Canada, including spices, food additives, vitamins, minerals, flavouring preparations, or grown in Canada such as oranges, cane sugar and coffee. Generally, the percentage referred to as very little or minor is considered to be less than a total of 2 per cent of the product. " I imagine that depending on your choice of botanicals and your sourcing of them, you will likely be playing in a grey area.
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    Eye Wash Stations

    When pressed, our engineer said "or you could use a non plumbed unit that hangs on the wall". We are in a different jurisdiction and I am the last to trivialize safety, but your engineer may be recommending the gold standard, not what is acceptable by regulatory bodies. It may be worth your time to make a call to a second party specializing in these matters. Note: We sadly don't have a forklift.
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    Glycol Systems

    Food for thought. We are really new but have already switched over to a hybrid system where we chill one CLT with an internal glycol loop cooled by a chiller and have a second unchilled tank of water that we let cool ambiently to the room. They both pump through the same water lines to our condensor, mash tun, etc. This allows the shop to not run the chiller any more than necessary and retain some hot water to be use for other purposes (in our case simply radiant heat).
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    Dephlegmator and Condenser Equilibrium

    With a large charge, we can easily keep our still at the same temperature for several hours on a heavily refluxed GNS/vodka run, in part because our thermometer is in the headspace of the kettle. This is visually looking at an analogue thermometer - not the same as actual temperature changes since small increments are difficult to observe. Are you flooding one or more of your plates? What you are describing would match up with a plate being flooded then clearing, releasing a bolus of gas which would raise your condensor temp which would cool again if the plate flooded again and so forth.
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    Small Scale Grain Liquid Separation

    We've tried shoveling floor drain waste into 5g pails and garbage cans riddled with 1/16mm holes and weirdly can't get them to drain well even though it works well through for our false bottom hdpe setup that we use for our good spent grains. I can't explain why other than holes in the sides must get clogged. (We toss spent grains from floor drains since we assume them to be contaminated by floor waste and cleaning solutions and won't let that be fed to the cattle that eat our good spent grains)
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    Sourcing Certifiable Thermometers

    We've used Bosagrape and they are just down the road from you; unless of course that was your supplier that stopped supplying. They have been good to deal with.
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    Identifying Infection

    While still a rookie compared to most on the forums, I've ran my share of runs and been fortunate but for the odd bacterial infection back in the "white bucket days". Unfortunately we have something in house that has infected an ferment later in the process over the holidays when we let a ferment sit. The mash was wheat, oats, rye and final pH 3.39 FG 1.002. Because of the holidays (and being unable to start the truck because of -31F weather), we couldn't strip it for two weeks. The pellicle showed up between day 12 and 14. Smell coming off of it is pleasant and fruity, but as expected with the pH it is sour. Curious about the infection, partly because of the ferment and also because of seeing it once when our "lauter bin" didn't drain properly. I am leaning towards lacto but humbly welcome input. Thanks
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    Fat washing

    We've been running some basic experiments with fat washing distilled product. We've had some success but aren't where we need to be to guarantee long term stability. There are products on the market but may be using artificial flavoring (which isnt our thing).I was curious if there were suggestions on achieving stability (higher abv, fine filtration) etc. We are happy with flavours but are impatient and don't want to find out that everything goes nasty months in while it sits in distribution .
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    Small Scale Grain Liquid Separation

    Scrap that, we leave it overnight to drain and it's likely preferment you are asking about which would mean bacteria/yeast would make their home before you pitch.
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    Small Scale Grain Liquid Separation

    For separation of grains from our stillage we have a rectangular tank with an hdpe (puckboard used in rinks...its pretty much what we make our walls of up here in Canada). It has false bottom with a lot of drilled 1/16" holes drilled in it and a drain in the base. It works for cool stillage and it sounds like you are dealing with cold mash. Raised with a 55 gallon drum under and it may work for you. The big plus is that hdpe is not only good for slapshots but is food grade and stands up to shovels really well. It is great for hammermilled oat/wheat combination but the holes would have to be smaller for wheat. I can't speak to malt.
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    T top corks

    Assuming by your name that you are on the north side of the border. If so, give AOWilson a call; they've been good to work with.
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    Identifying Infection

    Thanks, that's great feedback I dont mill onsite but I do keep milled grains in the room. Sources that i will keep my eye on are our closed loop CLT and our floor drain. This was a bit of an experiment using a partially open fermenter (milk tank) instead of our normal fermenters. As a science geek to begin with (but slept through most of my microbiology courses apparently), I will do as you folks suggest and run the experiment. Thanks for the heads up on the carboxylic acid and late tails cut, I wouldn't have thought of it. @Ironton @Foreshot
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    clogged spray balls

    Unfortunately it didn't work. I guess this is the downside of having the kettle as the heating unit for the CIP system. I wish I could say it won't happen again, but undercaffeinated mornings don't treat me well. I'm hoping to unclog the majority of the spray balls and hope the others clear with repeated cleaning cycles.
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    clogged spray balls

    Had an absent minded moment and grains got into our CIP pump. I now have approx 22-24 spray balls clogged. Many are in very inaccessible places (eg in Whiskey head requiring removal of head, at top of 18 foot vodka column, etc.). I've dealt with this in other tanks easily (eg fermenters, mash tun) by removing balls and cleaning them but am not looking forward to taking this approach with the still. I am just checking if there is any advice out there before I dismantle the whisky head and start removing 20+ sight glasses to access the balls and clean them by hand. Thanks in advance The absent minded student
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    Barrel Racks - Northeast

    If you dont mind sourcing on the other side of the border (Niagara), Watsons.ca were good to deal with and also carry used racks.
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    Chiller Setup

    That's great, thanks - it makes me feel better. In the end, I cut open the supply line to install a check valve but left the manifold where the bleeder would go alone since I didn't have much room to play. If seems like it's going to work well.
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    Chiller Setup

    My plumber just finished installing our manifold from the chiller (with runs to chill CLT, fermenters). We worked with manufacturers drawings and what is unfortunately my plumbers overconfidence with installing glycol loops. After finishing the 2" copper pipe, the steam fitter was quick to pick up that we didn't have an air release valve/bleeder valve or a check valve. Reluctant to cut into the copper in two places (check valve after chiller supply and air bleed valve at the high point) and resolder everything myself, I am looking for some feedback. Note: aside from the absolute hassle, it is quite the short and busy loop, so there are few places to easily cut and rework the fittings. 1) What are the implications of not having a bleeder valve? I am assuming a loss of efficiency and I'm assuming that I will have to recut this portion. 2) Why is a check valve required in a closed loop chiller? I am assuming that without a check valve, the worst that could happen is some chilled glycol return to the holding tank when the chiller is turned off. In my limited knowledge of these matters, I don't see this as being a big deal and worth reworking the system for. Thanks to all who give this their thoughts.
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    Steam Boiler

    I would check in with whoever is likely to install the boiler. We've had 99 problems with compliance, but our boiler wasn't one.
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    Steam Boiler

    From our experience, it means first that you dealer is honest and isn't letting you find out upon delivery. Second, in Canada, it means that achieving compliance before a ticketed professional installs it. For example, we had to ship our CE motors away to be tested to get appropriate stickers for our electricians to even touch them as CE is not the same as UL. From what i understand, CE is effectively an honor system in Europe and regulatory inspection is not required (which is required for UL and CSA certification). We have no experience with ISO.
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    Chiller Setup

    Our supply and our return from the chiller are 2" Copper. The recommended material options from the chiller company were industrial ABS (not available in our parts), stainless or copper. We chose to use copper and although necessary, it will feel like a crime to cover it in foam insulation. Our high point in the two inch is between the supply and return (think of a square of 2" copper square strapped to the wall) and any 3/4" offshoots to tanks would start too low for a bleeder to be of value (although those would have been easy to work with since they are pex).
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    Lead Time

    For us (so far) it was the city not knowing what to so with us (1st distillery in the area), contractors not completing work on time and our primary equipment supplier overshooting promised deadlines by 50%. Get deadlines in writing and with penalties, if possible.
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    Used dairy equipment

    We have a very large chiller available to us that is pushing too much to reduce to the flow through a 3/8" infeed (with a 1/2" outfeed) as is on the chilling unit of our Mueller tank. We are considering puncturing the jacket to weld a 2" ferrule in and a 2" ferrule out (on opposing ends), but are uncertain whether there is a foam insulation or air within the jacket itself. We will take a chance on puncturing the tank to weld the ferrule but are curious if anyone has drilled into the jacket before and seen what is there. We obviously have no interest in running the glycol/water mix through the jacket if there is insulation present.
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    Barrel Racking vs Drum Racking

    We are in an industrial town and we have many suppliers of racks for 50 gallon barrel drums. Local suppliers arent certain if they differ in sizing to wine / whisky barrel racks . By photo they look the same but was wonderkng if anyone out there could clarify this for us. We can order in wine barrel racks and pay shipping if needed, but are trying to source local for anything possible. Are drum barrel racks good to use? (or identical?). We are looking at the standard 2 barrel forkliftable racking most distilleries seem to use. Thanks in advance.
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    iStill 250 For Sale

    CBSA told me 8% tariff for a still not manufactured in the US (maybe Eu trade agreement reduces it to 0% like stills covered by NAFTA?). However, CBSA told me tgat there is 0% tariffs on brewing equipment such as Mash Tuns, irrespective of source. So if the bill of lading says that that machine is used to make Mash..... All that said, Kannuk knows his stuff. I called the CBSA 1-800 number several times and found the folks I got on the line knew the material cold. You could always call again and hope for someone different.
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    Figgins Reciprcator

    The theory as it was explained to me (or how my foggy mind recalls) is that both pots are charged with the same volume and heated at the same rate. Heating up time is supposed to be reduced due to the jacket to volume ratio realized by using two pots simultaneously. As each pot builds in temp, the vapour is pushed through the Lyne arms and these arms meet before going up the column forcing one vapour path to effectively retreat and reflux. That pot would then build pressure and force its vapour down the alternate Lyne arm and force a reflux on the other side, hence the reciprocating action . Apparently with a relatively few plates (<10?) you can reach sufficient concentration to satisfy Fed requirements for production of Vodka (ie 95%). Dragon distillery in Baltimore had their distillery (using this still) open for viewing to the Adi conference. I'm sure that Rusty Figgins (contact info in ADI directory?) would be happy to talk of his invention. I thought he had said Still Dragon was no longer the manufacturer, but I can't be sure.
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