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I would interpret them as asking for your registration number for your DSP that produces are handles the bourbon, I am not aware of a number generated for the product itself.

OK, first of all, Seth, mea culpa! I read and reread the message thinking to respond, but I misread it every time: I thought it said 500 gallons generates 1 GALLON! I missed the unit change from gallons to 1 BARREL! So, thinking you were asking whether it is either 500 or 1000 gallons of wash to get a GALLON of spirit, I wrote my reply, which in that context might have been at least somewhat understandable. But even then, perhaps I could have been more helpful. So again, mea culpa.

You should do some simple educational reading first before posting. Your values are so far from correct it suggests you have not read any of the layman introductions to production, many of which are on the web. Once you have done that, come back to this forum with more detailed questions. Good luck.

Where are you located? What flow rate are you anticipating? You might be able to use two 7/8" tubes in parallel in the same barrel. That could be far cheaper than running larger tubing.

Shouldn't have changed since 2008. I presume you had to get licensed for each, but you did so as a single entity, and thus avoided the limitation that you can not have an interest in another licensed vendor: in this case because it is one vendor. The brewery being a bar is explicit in the code, but the distillery did not seem to be, and that is what I am looking for legal clarification, since a tavern license is not cheap, and we don't plan to be a brewery.

That has been my interpretation, but I am having it reviewed by legal counsel. I don't think you can quite run like a regular bar. On the other hand, there is another clause that allows you to operate or coordinate operation on premises of a restaurant, and in that case, the restaurant would be running a bar. And, like a winery, you can set up a tasting room off premises. Again, I am having all of this reviewed by legal counsel in the context of reviewing our business plan, and I would suggest you do the same.

Me too!

Brenton, I am working on setting up our distillery in SW Michigan, but I live in Chicago. Would be interested in talking about your experience so far. I get up to Ravenswood now and then, so would be interested in seeing how you are putting things together. Best, Derrick

Do you think these are sufficiently resistant from leaching for GNS? I know that pure natural HDPE is fine, but since this is colored, I would want to verify. Might be OK for low wines and mashes, though.

But what you might say, if you feel it is true, is something like "Established in 2011 with ten years experience in distilling" or something like that... No?

I know you can sell 151 proof in Michigan, but not 190 proof (GNS). Everclear sells their 151, for example, but not the 190.

Welcome to see the establishment of an artisan distillery based on a cultural product of a regional ethnic community! Good luck to you! Just to note, the URL he gave has a typo, the correct URL is: http://www.lo-artisandistillery.com

We are, and are in a similar stage of development: Finished 2nd draft of business plan, looking at final selection of site, discussing with towns and county about their requirements (this is the most challenging aspect right now), working on first formulations, setting up web presence, preparing to purchase distillation apparatus, etc. Enjoy the workshop, I attended last year. We will be setting up in SW Michigan. Would be happy to discuss with you in more detail what we have been working on.

Is there any reason why you couldn't rinse with heads, and subsequently blow dry? This is how we often do final rinse for labware in chemistry labs using methanol, since the high vapor pressure alcohols will dry quickly.

Which is 55 gallon range (for those who can't calculate quickly).

Indeed, there are many legal vendors of flavorings or essences that are meant to be mixed with neutral alcohol. As long as you don't bottle it and resell it, you are mixing a drink for personal consumption.

That's the ticket! Sorry, I am only in planning stage, and I think you only need existing distilleries in the book. But if it is successful, I hope to be in the second edition!

I think the point here is that if you are going to ask a question along those lines, it should have been prefaced with: HERE (url) is a list of micro distilleries that are covered in the current draft of my book. If you are not included, and would like to be, please contact me...

First might be to organize a coalition that would want to push such an agenda. Would include existing small distillers of course, but that is a very small group. Add the likely new small distillers, such as existing breweries, brew pubs, and wineries; then add the agricultural producers that would care, such as small farmers that would grow source materials. Since our planned business model also focusses on using Michigan agricultural products for artisan distilling, we would certainly be on board. One has to also make the argument that the net increase in revenue due to the growth in total number and production of each small distillery, and indirect affect on agricultural economy, would significantly enhance the net tax revenue lost to the state from the reduction. For that, a simple economic study put together by the ag econ department of MSU, for example, would be necessary. Derrick

Regardless what the state law allows, the federal law does not allow for distillation for person use.

We have thought about this, and are thinking the correct thing to do is get a heat pump system that could be used for this purpose. One of the advantages of an integral system with building cooling/heating, is it would use waste heat from chillers to heat during the winter automatically.

We are also looking at a pole barn construction building for our distillery, and while we did not think about copper thieves, we know security is a TTB requirement as well as a real need. I agree with what has been suggested, that security monitoring of some sort is required: surveillance and alarms.

We are working through this same question ourselves for one of our potential locations. The adjacent property has an old gas station building that has been repurposed as a Baptist meeting house. We will be interested if there are any federal requirements, but we don't think there are. On the other hand, there often are state, county, and municipality restrictions.

His final reply makes sense. Only if you take the gin product and distill it again is it a redistillation. How many times you distill to get a GNS as a source material should not matter.