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  1. What are people currently using for 50ml (nip) bottles? We were using PET with 18mm PP Kerr tops? Or perhaps someone has some they want to unload?
  2. Depends on your quantity, unless very large quantity, you want to find a distributor, probably local, that works with multiple manufacturers.
  3. Yes, the vagaries of different methods of Gin production. I make both a Distilled Gin (no formula required) and a Redistilled Gin (formula required), so I understand what you mean precisely. But I think you just have to submit the formula, although as you say, if it is not currently being treated as GRAS, it might not get approved. For those that are interested, here is the last published update on that status: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-11-13/pdf/2018-24662.pdf And it may not get approved, because it is known to cause uterine issues for pregnant women, so that might be a non-
  4. Why do you think a colorant would not be allowed in gin? It would have to be in your formula, but gin can have any range of botanicals, and butterfly pea flower is just another botanical. There are no color requirements for gin.
  5. I have answered my question, you can delist after, and I did so. I have edited my original posting. Meanwhile, you can still sell product after de-registering and delisting, when you delist, you indicate the end of market date, which should match or be earlier than the expiration date of the last batch manufactured.
  6. Yes, we deregistered, and therefore have stopped production. But we still have some product on hand. Most we sell into our own shop, but I assume, like for spirits, we can transfer from manufacture to retail shop by means of invoice, and that the product can still be sold? The ACSA gives instructions now for delisting product, but if you have already deregistered, but it works after you deregister as well. Also note when you delist, you must indicate when marketing will end, which means the product you have already manufactured can be sold thereafter, until this deadline, according to informat
  7. Do we still need to deregister? Do we need to remove from market existing approved products?
  8. Note some have already de-registered before closing market activity of the products. We have rechecked, and you can delist the products after de-registering. You should also change the labeling to inactive.
  9. Well, in any case, we and a few other of our neighbor distilleries have de-registered effective 12/31/20, and obviously will stop making sanitizer, if we haven't already done so, until this is sorted out. I presume we can re-register if they decide to provide an exception for distilleries in the future.
  10. Sadly, many small distilleries made hand sanitizer in small quantities in an effort as much to be helpful as well to produce perhaps a small supplemental income stream, unaware of the impending fee of this magnitude. For such small facilities, given all the other difficulties during the epidemic, this will probably put them out of business.
  11. Definitely NOT alcohol burn. That is either just a function of proof, or of balance between proof and other flavors in the profile. Heat usually is a result of residual ketones.
  12. Hard to tell, since you are not using terminology that most of my friend distillers would employ. Alcohol burn is something very different from the "heat" of a new-make spirit: the latter will mellow with aging, the former changes ONLY with proof, or by being overpowered by other flavors. Are you tasting at 57%? I would expect anything over 100 proof to taste very alcoholic. Does that "heat" go away if you proof down to 80? Generally, I don't consider smooth the opposite of hot.
  13. I am assuming you don't mean something at the professional end like an HP Indigo? Those require space and expertise, are very expensive, and usually have be run with high % duty cycle to justify operation. If you mean something like the Primera line of printers, a would say they can be cost effective and reasonably straightforward to use. The most recent generation of printers have a reasonable printing rate for runs of a few to a few hundred labels, but too slow for 1000+, IMO. I have used both the older 810 and now the 900 extensively. For spirits, you are going to want to use pigment ink, n
  14. 2 years in a 4 gallon! And little angel's share loss? That must be some dense oak. Don't know what YOU mean by hotter. Normally, I think of heat as resulting from ketones in virgin spirit, that aging almost always reduces. Now harsher is different than hotter. I would expect it to be harsh. Oddly, if you are not getting much angel's share loss, you could just leave it in the barrel, it might mellow out in a year or two. Also, how does it taste if you dilute it with large quantities of unaged rum? Say, 2-5 parts white to your 2yo? If one of those tastes good, you could make "light rum", which i
  15. Okay, my problem is the excerpt on minimum proof in your text could be read differently then the excerpt I provided verbatim from the FDA footnote. The difference in punctuation could be meaningful. I find the Discus reply frustrating, because it doesn't really relay any justification or explanation for the use of lower proof alcohol, just says you only have to label with the final proof, which I already assumed. That is because from the punctuation of the footnote, I don't think the labeling mentioned for less than 189.8% refers to the final product, but to something else, and that is what my
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