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Everything posted by Southernhighlander

  1. Invaluable equipment vs

    mjduheme, That can happen when you order directly from a Chinese company. There are lots of reason's not to do that. Which Chinese company did you buy it from?
  2. Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Keith (Grazin Spirits) Thank you for the great review. Also, thank you for the steaks. They were really tasty
  3. Proof too high or tails smeared in, can't find the middle ground!

    Keith, I'm going to have Susan send you some bubble plate column operating instructions tomorrow. The instructions should really help you.
  4. Proof too high or tails smeared in, can't find the middle ground!

    Keith, To run 2 plates on your still, you simply open the drain valves on the plates that you are not running. It is much easier than columns that must have plates removed. However, if you strip at 50 to 60 proof you will probably not need any plates during the spirit run to get to 120 to 130 proof for the barrel. Whiskeys that are sold unaged are typically ran at higher proofs, 140s to 150s and you will need to run some plates for that. Run the upper most plates.
  5. Proof too high or tails smeared in, can't find the middle ground!

    Bluefish, From what I can see Keith does not have a bypass. He has plate drain valves with 1" plumbing. When he opens the drain valves and turns off the dephlegmator it makes it so that the plates cannot build a fluid level so the vapor just comes up through the risers from plate to plate with very little re condensing at the plates. Since the column is 10" in diameter the risers in the plates should have plenty of throughput and a low vapor velocity which will allow him to do a fast stripping run and then a slower spirit run with all plate drain valves open and the dephlegmator off he should be able to get 120 to 130 proof as an average for the spirit run. The spirit run should be stretched out to 4 hrs or more so that the cuts do not get smeared in with each other. Keith, I think that you should put a bypass in your cooling plumbing so that you can bypass the dephlegmator when you need to. If you need a design for that, let me know and I will email you one. Bluefish is correct, this still will not produce Vodka from scratch. You can produce Vodka with 15 plates, however it is best to have 20 plates for vodka. I may incur some wrath here from some people on the forum but I will tell you that you can produce Vodka from GNS with your still, no problem. You can buy the GNS for around $3.00 per proof gallon. If you dilute it to 35% then your still will produce like a 350 gallon still. When it comes into your distillery the GNS meets the identity of Vodka so you do not have to redistill it at 190 proof. Since the GNS comes off of continues column stills, you do need to redistill it to remove the heads. It does not matter that the gns was originally distilled by someone else. If you redistill it you can put that it was distilled by your distillery on the bottle. Some distillers really look down on people who make Vodka this way. I am neutral when it comes to this. I am neither for it or against it, however I do believe that if Vodka is made this way it should not be labeled as craft. Tito sold over $90,000,000 in Vodka last year and he made Vodka from GNS for many years, however I recently had someone tell me that Tito's has grown so much that now it is more cost effective to make his Vodka from scratch and that he is doing that now, but I don't know for sure if that is true. Also that column size is fine for your still, you will need to run it a little different than a 6" column but it will work.
  6. Explosion venting

    Still_Holler, Is your exhaust fan explosion proof?
  7. Proof too high or tails smeared in, can't find the middle ground!

    Keith actually purchased his still from another vendor. That particular vendor seems to know very little about still design. The still that he sold to Keith was actually dangerous. It was a Baine Marie running oil and the jacket was closed to atmosphere. There was a Chines pressure relief valve of the type that looks like a stainless cylinder and is ported all of the way around. If Keith had ran the still as it was delivered, the pressure relief valve would have popped at 7.5 psi and hot oil would have sprayed out of the relief valve ports 360 degrees and anyone standing near that still would have been very badly burned. I sold Keith some vents for his jacket to solve that issue. Also the vendor could not tell Keith how to wire the agitator so I had my electrical department head help Keith with that. Also the agitator paddles on this still were way to small to get the job done so I sold Keith some larger better designed agitator paddles. Keith is a really nice guy and should not have been done this way by this vendor. I am not sure about the column design as I have not seen it first hand but I think that Keith will be able to do what he wants with it once he does a few runs and figures it out. The biggest problem Keith has with this vendor is that the vendor will not give him support. I think that the vendor is not giving support because the vendor simply does not have a clue. The vendor let the Chinese factory design the still and the people at the factory don't have a clue either. This vendor is going to get someone hurt or killed if they are not careful. This vendor is not Corson. This Vendor is in the Great Northwest and he has sold home distilling equipment for the last few years. He just started selling larger equipment a little over 1 year ago. His prices are really low. Only a few people have purchased his equipment so far. I talked with this vendor a couple of times on the phone. I originally called him because he was using my pics on his website. He did not know that they were my pics and he promptly removed them. He seemed like a nice guy. This is to the aforementioned vendor. If you are on here and you see this, I really hope that you understand that you are putting people in danger. If you do not know what you are doing you should not be selling this equipment. You are going to get someone hurt or killed and you are going to have to live with that. If another person contacts me for help with one of your stills and the still is dangerous, I will help them and I will tell everyone who you are. You have been warned.
  8. Pumps for High Proof Alcohol

    Most diaphragm pumps can be grounded, even diaphragm pumps made from non conductive materials. If anyone wants to know how to ground a diaphram pump whether it is made from non conductive materials or not, contact me privately and I will help you with that. Also we now have jabsco impellers for flexible impeller pumps that are good for 205 F. These impellers hold up really well and do a great job with hotter liquids. paul@distillery-equipment.com 417-778-6100 http://distillery-equipment.com http://moonshine-still.co http://triclamp.com
  9. Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below is one of our 150 gallon combination Mash Tun Stills (parrot not shown). This unit is baine Marie and costs $14,000.00 to $15,000.00 complete with heating system and everything. Turn around time on these and many of our other models is only 6 to 8 weeks.
  10. Cooling Water set up feedback

    Re-using the hot water should work great for you. A lot of my customers do it that way and it saves them a huge amount of money and or water over time. It is a much better way than using a closed loop. The larger the mass of water the longer it will retain the heat.
  11. Cooling Water set up feedback

    Why not use the water from your condensers as free hot water? Run it into storage tanks and use it for mashing in and cleaning.
  12. Simple Pot Still Head Used (3 or 4")

    prcd Here you go https://shop.distillery-equipment.com/collections/stills/products/3-copper-pot-still-column-built-in-condenser-whiskey-head-moonshine-head We have sold thousands of them and they work great. 417-778-6100
  13. Inexpensive Pump for Hot Water/Backset

    We can sell you some jabsco impellers that are good for 205F. 417-778-6100 paul@distillery-equipment.com
  14. Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below are pics of a 105 gallon Bain Marie that just went to Blue Pearl Distillery. The price on the turn key units is 13,000.00 to 14,000 complete. We have them in combination mash tun still configurations. We have been shipping 1 or 2 Standard series stills per week and around 1 pro series every 2 weeks. Please note that our heating system control panels have external heat sinks and they are NEMA4 which means that they are liquid, dust and vapor proof. Our controllers are much safer than those of our competitors that have internal cooling fans. Control panels with cooling fans suck air through the panel to cool the components. None of our control panels have internal cooling fans, because our panels vent the heat from the SSRs externally. If there is ethanol vapor in the air an internal cooling fan will suck the flammable vapor in which can ignite from arcing componants in the panel which can cause a fire and or explosion.
  15. Merry Christmas

    Merry Christmas to everyone!!!!!
  16. Prepair for the FALLOUT!!!

    I agree 100%. Happy Holidays!
  17. Prepair for the FALLOUT!!!

    The new tax bill will help my businesses in many different ways. Huge savings in corporate taxes and especially in inventory taxes at the end of the year. Also this tax bill gives us all advantages when it comes to buying new equipment. I will be using the savings generated by the tax bill to grow my business by purchasing new inventory, adding new employees, buying new equipment and building more warehouse and shop space. I think that we will see over 4% growth in gdp in at least 3 quarters of 2018. We had 2 consecutive quarters of growth at over 3% in 2017.
  18. Corson Distilling

    I hear you CaptnKB. What a huge disappointment for the distillery owners!
  19. Hello from SW Louisiana

    JWB, If you need equipment give us a holler. We are up here in the Ozarks. Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC 417-778-6100 paul@distillery-equipment.com http://distillery-equipment.com http://moonshine-still.co http://triclamp.co
  20. Corson Distilling

    You are being sarcastic right? I have spoken to and worked with several of Corson's customers concerning their issues with Corson's bubble plate columns flooding. After studying those columns closely, it is my professional opinion that those columns have several design flaws that both limit throughput and cause flooding issues. I have helped 2 of Corson's customers resolve the flooding issues, but they are still having issues with really slow throughput and the only way that I can see to resolve the slow throughput issue is to cut the columns apart and replace the plates.
  21. Corson Distilling

    They did not get their still from Corson. They just bought a fermenter from them.
  22. Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    The still below is one of our new 150 gallon single wall stills with an 8" 4 plate bubble plate column. The price for this still as shown in the picture is only $5,932.00 This still is great for liquid washes, such as for Rum, Barley Whiskey and Moonshine etc. We can supply an electric heating system for it at additional cost. The quality is exceptional and I don't think that anyone can beat the price. 417-778-6100 paul@distillery-equipment.com http://distillery-equipment.com http://moonshine-still.co http://triclamp.co
  23. What to do next.

    That's the government bureaucracy that so many crave, at work. It all starts with, we need the government to take care of us, except in this situation it's supposed to be all about the revenue, but with the way they do things I wonder if they really want the revenue. I comply with what ever they want with a smile, but I'm a libertarian at heart. I hope that you don't give up and keep moving forward. That's the key, just don't give up. Also don't say or write anything that will piss them off. They are God in this situation, just like the safety and other inspectors, but I'm sure that you already know that. I think that you will get through it if you keep trudging forward. One ray of hope, is that as long as the new tax and trade bill passes small distilleries' fed liquor tax is going to go down over 80%. Let's all keep our fingers crossed.
  24. What copper should I use for a 300 gal still?

    DC works best for copper. Yes your 150 amp dc box is just a kids toy when it comes to welding copper. It won't touch 1/8" copper, and you will have trouble welding even 16 gauge copper if you are using argon. If you are working with any copper other than deoxygenated high phosphorous copper, you won't be able to weld it at all. Also you had better be a pretty dam good tig welder, even if you have a big enough welder. I have one Miller Syncrowave 200, two Miller Syncrowave 250 DXs, two Miller Syncrowave 300s and one Miller Syncrowave 500. I have several other welders but they arent Millers, so they don't really count The 500 puts out 625 amps max. It will weld 1/2" copper in one pass running helium. But you have to be running the water cooler or you can't stand the heat coming off of the copper for more than a few seconds. The other thing about copper is that you better get it right the first time, because you will cook off most of the phosphorous the first pass. I have so many welders because we not only build distilling equipment we also build equipment for the pharmaceutical industry under one of my other businesses.
  25. What copper should I use for a 300 gal still?

    Nice Job Dehner. You do good work. Only the best can tig copper with 99.9% pure copper rod.