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  1. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below are a couple of 250 gallons that are not yet complete.
  2. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    The the little baine marie mash Tun below was finished yesterday.
  3. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below are some pics of a 150 gallon electric Baine Marie Still that we finished this week.
  4. Southernhighlander

    Chicago Steam Boiler Installation Recomendations

    You can't go wrong with a Rite Boiler. They have units in operation that were built back in the 1950s. They are a really good Boiler. I have sold a bunch of them and my customers have never had one complaint or problem with any of them. I wish I knew an installer up there but I don't.
  5. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    NYCVilla, Since you are producing rum we can give you a full set of equipment for between $60,000 and $100,000 Email me if you would like a quote: paul@distillery-equipment.com
  6. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    nycVilla, I use a basic rule of thumb of 1000 to 1500 BTUs of low pressure steam boiler output per gallon of mash. So 500,000 to 750,000 BTUs of low pressures steam boiler output per hour for the 500 gallon. A 300 gallon turn key system, including the low pressure steam boiler, Mash Tun, 5 Fermenters, Up 60 gallon per minute variable speed mash pump, explosion proof ethanol pump, hoses for both pumps, 350 gallon UL listed ethanol storage tanks, Receiving tanks and proofing tanks, would cost between $100,000 and $150,000 depending on which options are chosen. For around $125,000 we can give you a complete system that will produce any spirit.
  7. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below are pics of equipment from 3 different orders that we completed in the last couple of days.
  8. Southernhighlander

    Hello from Central CA

    mradley, Your youth sounds a lot like mine, except that I grew up in the Smokies of Eastern TN, up a holler near a little town called Townsend. They broke the mold when they made men like your Mr. Crenshaw. they are few and far between today. If you ever need any equipment, or if you just want to come up and look at some stills, just give me a holler. I'm up here in the MO Ozarks. 417-778-6100 paul@distillery-equipment.com Paul Hall
  9. Southernhighlander

    Electric Still for sale

    Probably not. I have seen 5 gallon ones for $75,000.00
  10. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below are pics of some of the components for a very large vacuum set up that is going to a nutraceuticals company. They are actually buying 4 complete extraction and reclamation systems from us for extracting oils from plant materials. Each system has two 1000 gallon percolators and two 500 gallon vacuum stills as well as some receiving vessels and vacuum pumps etc. They will be extracting oils from herbs such as Witch Hazel and Missouri Snake Root for medicines.
  11. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Yep, it's going to Iowa. The safety manual and operating instructions will be in the crate. If you need anything at all or have any questions just let us know. 417-778-6100
  12. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Mike, I am sorry about all of your heating system issues. We typically do not have problems with our heating systems or agitators. As far as I know we have helped you every time that you have asked us for help. In fact, even though your warranty has long expired, it looks like we have replaced most of the electrical components on your still and I have paid for your electrician to do all of the work. The last email that I received from you was about a month ago. I think that the last time we spoke I told you if the problems continued I would have my people stop in after they do the delivery and set up that we have in OR. The OR delivery has been moved forward twice. The customer in OR has had some building delays and so it looks like we will not be doing that delivery until the middle of next month. At this point, if you are still having problems, I think that the only thing that we can do is send my electrician out there. The temp probe issue and the 5hr heat up time may be a simple PID programing problem or possibly something else. My guess is that it is something simple that he can fix in just a few minutes once he gets there. Thank you.
  13. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Just finished this little 105 gallon Bain Marie Combination Mash Tun Still yesterday.
  14. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    So not only do we do distillery equipment we also manufacture and sell state of the art equipment for the extraction and concentration of oils from plant materials. This equipment has uses in the pharmaceutical and nutraceutical industries. The extractor in the pics below will process 8lbs of plant material per run and it is capable of doing several runs per day. Butane or propane can be used as the solvent. The extraction is done under vacuum. The vacuum pump is not shown.
  15. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below is a little 105 gallon Mash Tun stripping still that we completed today. With the correct amount of copper packing in the column this still will give you more copper vapor interaction than an all copper pot still. You can mash and distill in this unit. You can even ferment in it if you like. The price is less than $14,000 complete with the heating system and everything. You can start with this unit and then add a dedicated mash tun and fermenters as needed.
  16. Southernhighlander

    silvery stuff after on-grain distillation

    You would not be able to make Vodka even with 5 or 6 runs with that column. My 100 gallon Baine Marie stills have a 22kW heating system and a 6" diameter column and you can do a stripping run in around 5 hrs. My steam jacketed stills will do a stripping run in around 3.5 hrs from start to finish. However depending on your situation a 9 hour run may not be a problem and therefore you would not need a larger column etc. In my experience both the silvery stuff and the black stuff are lipids.
  17. Southernhighlander

    silvery stuff after on-grain distillation

    Klattig, It's sort of off of the subject but a 4" column plate column is way too small for a 100 gallon still. I bet you have some really long run times with a 100 gallon charge.
  18. Southernhighlander

    spirit holding tanks - codes?

    Nabtastic, I can sell 1000 to 1500 gallon conical vessels for blending and proofing, but for ethanol storage I only have 55 gallon barrels and stainless totes in sizes up to 750 gallons. You could certainly stack 2 of the 750s one on top of the other which would make 1500 gallons. I have sold over 70 totes rated for ethonal storage, over the last 6 years. More than 1/2 of them were used, but I am having a harder time sourcing the used ones since oil prices are going up. I am getting around the rules concerning volume restrictions on storage inside my distillery by storring in UL listed vessels outside the main distillery building in a 3 sided shed that has steel bars and a lock to protect the revenue. I am not required to have sprinkler systems or anything like that in my distillery.
  19. Southernhighlander

    Basic Equipment Layout Suggestions

    In the past, I've helped customers, who asked, to lay out their distilleries. Unfortunately, because of my current work load, it is not possible for me to do the drawings anymore because they can be very time consuming. So I thought that I could put some basic info on here, that may help people do their layouts. The layout suggestions below certainly do not fit all spaces and scenarios, but they can be used as a rough reference to lay out a distillery so as to have good production flow through. These basic layouts work best in completely open spaces and so they do not account for storage and stock rooms. Also, I am just an equipment designer, builder and vendor. People on this forum who distill everyday have a great deal more insight about some of this than I do because they have more experience dealing with the actual production situation than I do, so I'm sure that a great deal more information will be given here on this subject as time moves forward.. If you have a single garage door entrance then you should set things up in sort of a horse shoe. Inputs, such as grain etc., can go on the right side of the door, then your mash tun, then the fermenters then the still, then the proofing area and then the bottling area and then cases ready to go out on the left side of the door. It would be a good idea to have a trench drain in front of the mash tun fermenters and still. So depending on your space, with one door you may have the inputs near the right side of the door along the right wall then the mash tun next along the right will then a couple of fermenters along the right wall and then some more fermenters at the back of the horse shoe or along the back wall, then the still at the back on the left wall to form the left side of the horseshoe, then the proofing and bottling area, then the cases ready to ship out on the left side of the door. If barreling is to be done, then that should be done on the output side. Of course you can reverse the left and right sides as far as input and output. If you have an indoor and an outdoor that are in line with one another that is a much better scenario. You would have the inputs such as grain etc. on the input side near to the input door and then the mash tun, then fermenters then still and then proofing and possibly barreling and then bottling and then outputs stored near the door. You would have a trench drain running from the mash tun to the bottling area, 3 or 4 ft in front of the equipment.
  20. Southernhighlander

    Closed Chiller Loop Water Treatment

    Josh, The volume of water through the condenser for that still should be between 190 and 300 gallons per stripping run. If the input water is 48 F to 68 F with an output temp of between 130 and 145 f. If you are using more condenser cooling water than that email me privately and we will figure out what's wrong.
  21. Southernhighlander

    Closed Chiller Loop Water Treatment

    Josh, I don't know much about treating water in a closed loop chiller. However, what temp is your tap water there? If you run the 120 to 150 F hot water from your condensers into 2 hot water holding tanks, one for mashing and the other for cleaning you will use all of the hot water and save a huge amount of money on energy costs. With the closed loop you are cooling down 90 degrees or more while on the other end of your process you are using energy to heat water up. It's a huge waste of energy. If your tap water is over 68F then instead of the closed loop you could have a chilled water tank cooled with a much smaller chiller than you would use for a closed loop. With the chilled water tank you are cooling water just 20 degrees and then you are using the heat energy in the water for mashing and cleaning. You are also reducing the time that it takes you to mash because you are starting with much hotter water. On the other hand with the closed loop you are cooling down the coolant 90 degrees F or more while on the other end of the process you are heating water up. Of course if you are crash cooling mash and or cooling fermenters closed loop is a better way to go. Also some closed loop systems have ways of reclaiming heat. I'm sorry, I know this advice comes a little late for you but it may help others who read this. I'm sure someone will come along soon to answer your water treatment question.
  22. Southernhighlander

    New startup question about setting up

    There is potential for some problems there for sure.
  23. Southernhighlander

    New startup question about setting up

    Oh sure, I agree.
  24. Southernhighlander

    New startup question about setting up

    richard, I'm sorry, i lost track that you were in South Africa where the rules may be different. Here in the US the area 6 ft away horizontally from any part of the still, 3' above the floor in that horizontal space and 24" above any part of the still, is considered a class 1 division 2 hazardous environment. If you have an agitator, it needs to be explosion proof. Your control panel would need to be more than 6' away from the still unless it is explosion proof. If it is 7 ft away and outside the C1-D2 area it should still be at least NEMA4. Contactors do not create heat so you can use them in a fully enclosed NEMA4 panel without cooling fans. We use contactors and SSRs in our panels. The SSRs are 40 amp and the amp draw per element is 13.26 at 240v 3 phase and 22.92 amps at 240v 3 phase. We also build heating systems for 208v and 480v in single and 3 phase. We do not do 600v heating systems. Some of our larger stills have an inner boiler thickness of over 8mm. It sounds like you are well on your way. I understand why you want to go with direct electric heat and your points concerning direct electric heat are well taken. Many people doing all liquid washes especially, barley based, off the grain washes share your same views. I bet if we counted all of the stills around the world, there would be several times as many stills fired by direct electric heat than Baine Marie and steam stills combined. Most Distillery Equipment Vendors sell direct fied electric stills and they are the bread and butter for home distilling equipment vendors. With tens of thousands of them out there, so far everything seems to be going okay, knock on wood. In fact I think that there are a lot more instances of pressure canners blowing up and injuring people, and there are certainly a lot more instances of propane fired Turkey fryers going up in flames. All distillers should know that no still is absolutely 100% safe. In sort of an abstract way, a still is no different than a chain saw. Even the best made stills and chains saws are only as safe as the operator makes them. I spent years as a logger and then many more years as a head sawer, working a few inches away from a 52" diameter circular saw blade spinning at 600 rpms. I have a great respect for anything that can kill me or hurt me badly. When working around dangerous equipment you should never lose that perspective. If you become complacent forgetting that your still and the ethanol it produces can hurt you, that's when things can go wrong very quickly. All of that being said, are well built direct fire electric stills more dangerous than well built baine marie and steam fired stills? With all of the variables involved I think a lot more study needs to be done to ascertain that. I would say that if someone runs the direct fire electric still properly they can certainly mitigate the danger to a level where they can use their direct fired electric still in the same mannor every day for 30 or 40 years and never get hurt. I used chainsaws to cut very large trees and a giant circular saw to saw them up for over 30 years and was never injured, because I thought about the power of what I was truly dealing with every day and never became complacent.
  25. Southernhighlander

    Anyone have experience w/ Affordable Distillery Equipment LLC??

    Below are some of the items that we completed this week. All 3 of the complete stills are one of a kinds. The still pot is a 45 gallon jacketed baine marie that a customer has his own column for.
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