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  1. I don't think so, it's not the right color for gold. Maybe it's an alloy of copper and zinc.😁
  2. We can build you one. Email paul@distillery-equipment.com
  3. Lots of our customers purchase mash tuns and fermenters that are twice the size of the still. In your case that would be a mash tun that has a working capacity of 2,000 liters. We sell mash tuns in that size with built in crash cooling. If you are doing barley based spirits and need a lauter tun, we can supply those as well. paul@distillery-equipment.com
  4. In our main process for hemp to cbd extraction, is done with ethanol. The vacuum reclamation still is filled with the oil laden ethanol, which was pumped over from the wash vessel through some filters and the after pumping is complete distillation is done very quickly under vacuum at 50C to reclaim the ethanol for future use and to concentrate the oil for further processing. This is done at 50 C or lower to preserve valuable terpenes, which have a broad range of boiling points. Next we winterize at -28C and then we filter out the waxes and lipids using very fine filtering mediums and vacuum to pull the more concentrated oil ethanol mixture through the filtering medium. The chlorophyll is removed using molecular bonding and vacuum filtration. Then the residual ethanol is removed under vacuum in a roto vap, then we decarb in a decarb still and then we short path and run 3 fractions. Then we run the 2nd fraction again into 3 fractions to concentrate the CBD in the center fraction to over 90%. Next we use reverse phase, column, flash chromatography utilizing vacuum to pull it through the super fine silicate, to separate out the residual THC which is disposed of. I'm leaving out a lot of things in between. It is very complex. However there are several different ways to skin this cat and lots of different methods are used with other solvents. Residual ethanol is removed using vacuum distillation and or vacuum ovens and vacuum chambers. It's extremely profitable at the moment with THC free CBD distillate selling for over $10,000.00 per kilo. However the prices for dried hemp and crude oil have fallen in the last year. CBD distillate is holding up well and price projections are good for the rest of the year in that category. and now CBG is becoming very valuable. We distill off terpenes at every stage of the process as they are valuable as well. The waxes and lipids are collected to be sold for use in lotions and soaps. These are some interesting businesses to be in, to say the least.
  5. Oz distilling. I really like your post concerning steam versus electric and electric boilers versus gas. You give some very good info. . However we have had customers that went with very large electric stills because of there special situations. Those customers could not find anyone else that sells electric baine marie stills over 150 gallons, so (from what I can tell) we get all of the business in the US for baine marie stills that are larger than 150 gallons. Also we are the only company that I know of in the US that can build 20 plate vodka stills that fit under 10' ceilings, so we get all of that business as well. What I am saying is, that some situations buck the norm and in those situations you need a still builder that is flexible and willing to do things that others are not willing to do. We also have stills that distill at 50C and can complete runs in 1.5hrs from start to finish, however our customers that buy those are generally in the cannabis business.
  6. We now have stills that have self contained steam systems and they are fired by electric elements that create steam in the jackets. These are open systems that operate at 14psi. Also we sell electric baine marie stills as large as the customer wants. We have sold several that are 300 gallon capacity and some that are 500 gallon capacity.
  7. You need a chiller. You should contact Mike at MG Thermal Consulting: Contact: Mike Gronski, Director (info@mgthermalconsultingco.com) Office: 770-995-4066 Cell: 678-773-2794 www.mgthermalconsultingco.com
  8. Starcat, Thanks, I really appreciate that. Nice work. Did you do the conduit as well? We've never done electric steam controls. Its something that I know almost nothing about. Sounds interesting for sure.
  9. Starcat, You sound like an electrician who knows his trade well. Our systems use single phase elements. I decided to go that direction when I first started building stills so that if our customers need to replace elements they can get inexpensive ones from their local hardware store. As I'm sure you know, US made 3 phase immersion heaters can be really expensive. I'm not an electrician, but due to the fact that we build heating systems and heating system control panels in house, I try my best to maintain a good understanding of how they work. Our original PID panels where designed by an electrical engineer who I had on staff then. My electrical department head has improved the design in a few different ways since then. Our control panels and heating systems are built for C1D2 hazardous environments and will pass all electrical inspections anywhere in the US.
  10. That's a great idea. Does the control panel have a PID in the door? Doing a resistance test on the elements would be a good idea as well. If it turns out that you need a control panel and elements, email me paul@distillery-equipment.com. Our panels and heating systems are built in house and we have them in over 130 distilleries. If one of our elements burns out, you can buy a replacement at your local hardware store for $30.00 Are your elements in the wash or are they in the jacket of a baine marie still? If the elements are in the wash, simple proportional control with a rheostat and variable SSRs work best. Set point temp control is not the best for stills with the elements in the wash. Set point temp control works best with baine maries stills, where the elements are in the jacket with your temperature probe in the jacket as well.
  11. There is no neutral connection. Our electrical systems are different than yours. You have a single wire 220v that goes to neutral for your common household power, right? Our 220 is two 110 legs . Our common household power is 110v to neutral. Also you are 50HZ and we are 60Hz. Anyway the pics are correct for the USA.
  12. This was a post that was repeated by accident so I deleted it.
  13. After more thought the 4 devices cannot be SSRs because they do not have room for external heat sinks.
  14. I edited my last post as well so you might want to look at it again.
  15. Here is what I see. I see 3 motor starters with contactors and next to them I see 4 devices that could be SSRs and I see a 24 volt power supply (the big black box). I see 24v control wiring coming from something in the door, which is probably a PID (that's usually where they are placed). If those devices mentioned above are SSRs then this certainly could have a proportional control PID. If those devices are not variable SSRS and are instead fuses then this could not be a PID with proportional control. However on off control PIDs can be set to cycle on and off just before the set point is reached and this can also lead to long heat up times, so he should still try running with a set point temp 20F higher. We use both electromechanical relays and solid state relays in our panels. Meaning each element has both a electromechanical relay and a solid state relay. A control panel that has SSRS only, is a hazard. Anyway, my biggest question is why did they use motor starters instead of regular electromechanical relays. The motor starter will work but why use them? This is not what they are for. Also most likely the motor starter contactors have a more limited number of switches before the contacts need to be replaced. This is not a design I would use at all. It makes me wonder if the electricians have ever built a panel to control immersion heaters before. The problem may not be the PID and is most likely the elements or the way that they are wired. I'm just brain storming and looking at all possible possibilities. At least my amp draw and wattage calcs give the electricians a base line to go by.
  16. If the PID is a more expensive one, the problem could be with your PID. Some of the more expensive PIDs have proportional control and they can set up to reduce the proportional output to the elements when you get close to your set point temp and that may be the default setting for the controler out of the box. If the elements were metered when the temp was close to the set point, you may have gotten a lower amp reading because the PID had throttled the elements back. If the PID is throttling the output back when the set point temp is approached, then this also could cause a very long heat up time Try setting your setpoint temp 20 degrees F higher than your target temp and see how long it takes to reach the target temp. Also have your electrician meter the elements half way to the target temp and have him check the resistance in the elements as well and ask him if the PID has proportional control and what the settings are for the PID. My calcs show that your 230v 3 phase elements fed 208 3 phase power will draw 9.17 amps per leg and put out 1,908 watts per leg giving a total wattage of 5,724 per element. With all elements running correctly and producing a full 5,724 watts each, your heat up time for 100 gallons of grain in mash should be around 2 hrs and 15 minutes. Also look at the pic below and let me know which way your elements are wired: star delta or delta?
  17. Do the elements have the phase and or voltage stamped on them? Do you have pics of the inside of the controller and of the elements?
  18. Derek, Were the controller and elements made in the US or China? Also please follow Starcat's advice and have an electrician do all of the metering.
  19. If the elements are 7kW and they are 208 3 phase elements, they should draw 19.44 Amps each, under a full load. The elements should be stamped with the phase and voltage on the terminal end. .
  20. What is the amp draw per element and what is your phase and voltage? What phase and voltage are the elements made for?
  21. A good rule of thumb for steam boiler sizing is 250 BTUs per Liter if you want to reach operating temp within an hour.
  22. He uses electricity to do the conversion so I guess you could call it Tesla kinda smarts. I think he said that the conversion yields a wash that is around 40 proof and so he uses the still that we sold him to proof up to 190. I have wood fired stills that run under a little vacuum so that you get a good fast distillation using a wood fired hydronic boiler. We are using a really big hydronic boiler to fire our vacuum stills at our hemp to CBD processing facility. I have a dump truck, so we buy 17 yard dump truck loads of end trim blocks from a sawmill for $75.00 per load. The wood is mostly oak. You are right about firewood being considered carbon neutral. I received a grant from the US government to purchase a hydronic boiler to fire a lumber drying kiln for my wood products business, years ago.. It seems crazy to me that the US government helped me buy something that pumped thick wood smoke into the atmosphere for over 16 years because they thought that it was good for the environment, however who am to argue with free money. It does not matter to me whether I agree with programs that offer free money from the government. I will take all of the money that they want to give me. My new house will have solar panels only because the government is paying part of the bill for them by giving me tax credits, which when I penciled it out, will cost me less for electricity in the long run. I do believe in global warming. The world's average temp has risen .8 degrees since 1880. No one can deny that as we have the temp records to prove it. That is 8/10ths of 1 degree in 139 years.
  23. Why does the still pot have a brassy color?
  24. Welcome Basil! Concerning Carbon. I have a customer who takes C02 and water and turns it into ethanol. He originally tried to get funds to use his process to make fuel, however strangely enough no one was interested so he is making Vodka from CO2 and last I heard it was selling well. Basically he reversed the combustion process of ethanol.
  25. Below are a couple of stills that we finished this week and a 300 gallon vacuum reclaim still for hemp to CBD processing that we are working on.
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