Pour Decisions

On 3/3/2021 at 1:11 PM, SteelB said:

looking for new barrels on the east coast.

https://www.wvgbc.com/

https://speysidebci.com/

https://www.adirondackbarrelcooperage.com/

https://northeastbarrelcompany.com/

https://eastcoastbarrels.com/american

Congrats Paul

10 hours ago, PeteB said:

If anyone has an issue with enough economical cooling water I suggest you consider a continuous still, at least for the stripping run. 

With the correct simple design they need NO = ZERO = ZILCH cooling water and  no chiller unit.

Continuous stills sound complicated and expensive but a stripping one is very basic and should be much cheaper than a pot of similar output.

And they use way less heat energy and so are much cheaper to run.

1 hour ago, PeteB said:

Paul, you make me think I should patent my design, but I am sure it must be used elsewhere.

The condensers on my continuous stills are as described 5 posts above, a long set of Liebig condensers in series.

The coolant for the condensers is the feed stock(wash, beer, wine or whatever)

The cold (room temperature) wash travels in the opposite direction (counterflow) to the vapour and condenses it, by the time the wash reaches the height of the still it is almost to boiling point, then it drops into the top of the stripping column. 

With enough length of Liebig and adjusting the feed rate there is no need for any extra cooling.

If the feed wash is hotter than the desired temperature of alcohol output then a short section of Liebig could be added the the output end of the condenser and run a small volume of external coolant through it.

Let me know if any readers are having trouble visualising this and I will do rough sketch this weekend.

why not buy a small functional still?

@Southernhighlander Care to share your recommended setup for cooling without a chiller? I'm in Northern Pa, cold mountain spring water! I'm looking ahead and this post caught my interest.

On 2/4/2021 at 1:45 PM, bluestar said:

Why do you think a colorant would not be allowed in gin? It would have to be in your formula, but gin can have any range of botanicals, and butterfly pea flower is just another botanical. There are no color requirements for gin.

I was focused on Distilled Gin where a formula is not required but obviously the distillate would be clear. I do not believe you can add colorant or flavoring to Distilled Gin, correct me if I'm wrong. Totally forgot that Compound Gin can have colorant or flavors added post distillation, but as was mentioned butterfly Pea Flower is not yet GRAS so it's out for now. I wish they'd make a ruling on that as its been submitted since 2018.

Stumbled on this old thread while tinkering with my gin. I'm playing with the butterfly pea flower as a concept to be used in a tasting room cocktail. I realize the cocktail doesn't have the same strict guidelines as the spirit production does, but how are you getting away with adding a colorant to gin as in producing and bottling a blue gin? I thought that was disallowed by TTB?

was the seller of no help here?

i for one would not use that element. It looks used and abused. I strongly recommend using a stainless steel ULWD element such as this one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0183KIU1E 

Welcome back. I'll stop in one day on my travels through the area

I would strongly recommend you have a look at https://whiskeysystems.com/

Definitely speak with whomever your legal consultant is, but my input is that if you are starting a business with a friend, you would be a multiple member LLC. For ease of tax reporting etc, I'd ask your CPA if it makes sense to setup as an S Corp, which it likely does. 

Heres a quick pic with a small Snapple bottle in it. These can be shipped directly like this, but I strongly recommend placing into a carton if nothing else than for concealing the contents. 

BTW, my day job is Packaging Specialist. Most of my experience is with manufacturers and e-commerce facilities, but morphing towards the beverage industry as thats where my heart is!

What type of volumes are you talking about? I can supply inflatables similar to what @PeteB referred to

welcome aboard

welcome aboard Dave. Where abouts are you?

3 hours ago, Printingblue said:

• Name of Recipient
• Mailing Address
• Phone Number
• Email Address
• Zip Code

I believe he meant as far as identifying the contents of the shipping cartons, not what is needed on the shipping label.
 

On 9/4/2020 at 3:41 PM, Ish200 said:

Thanks Brooks and Pour!

Brooks - I do not have equipment yet so I cant yet answer what I am mashing in. 

Pour - are you fermenting a wort taken out of lautering ton like scotch?

 

I typically ferment on the grain and rack off the top of the grain bed when its ready to run

no problems reusing it as long as you keep it wet. Valves as mentioned arerecomended

I use a 5500 watt ULWD heating element. I haven't tried distilling on the grain yet, but I don't usually let a ferment clear. I haven't had any issues with scorching. 

This is the element I have, been using the same one for several years now and it still looks brand new.

https://www.amazon.com/Elemento-Calentador-inmersión-infusión-5500-00watts/dp/B0183KIU1E

nice, thanks for sharing

As EZ Drinking stated, you can certainly do that. You can blend to your hearts desire as long as what you are bottling is as approved via COLA

Welcome aboard! 

I've been seeing Kveik mentioned allot lately all over the brewing scene. Guess I'll need to obtain some and give it a whirl

Like seeing the progress and continued support for your products. I'm surprised though that you don't receive any criticism for shipping them out uncovered like that. If I was receiving one of these I surely would want it to be a showpiece as well and would be very disappointed in the case of any damages, even scratches.  would expect at least a pallet cover stretch wrapped to the still, but that's just me.