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I would take as many as I could get, if I could get them. No luck so far...
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OMG. so many words put together in such an interesting way. preach it. Even the WHO is not as certain of themselves as you are. just wow. Sit down, have a drink or six. Anyhoo sorry for the thread hijack Odin. Back to the world of iStill. I think you have the longest thread here, so consider it a small break from reality. hah, see what I did there
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Read some more recent scientific studies of the WHO formula. Including those that recommend reducing the glycerin and ABV, eliminating the hydrogen peroxide because of standard cleanliness. Opinions are like sanitizer; some people have lots just because.
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Yippity doo dah, chances are in 48 hours there will be a new guidance. I wait with bated breath.
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oh for goodness sakes, just make your sanitizer and call it a day. The US is full of distilleries doing just that, and frankly I don't believe when all this is over the FDA is going to track down all the distilleries who supplied a nation in need and pursue cases against them because they didn't follow the daily changing guidances of bureaucratic minutae. Come for me first.
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The WHO formula and production instructions are overkill and clearly meant for use in developing areas without access to modern clean facilities. All this chatter on ADI is for US production of sanitizer. iStill and Odin are not in the US. ergo proost
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Oh I'll be skipping the denaturing that's for sure. Just like every distillery that's been producing it up until now. Come and get us FDA! GTFO
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fyi if you're having problems sourcing hydrogen peroxide: grow stores aka hydroponic stores aka where people go to get weed growing supplies, regularly sell gallon containers of 34%.
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I think you are misreading the most recent FDA guidance. That is for producing the alcohol to be used in the hand sanitizer formula, not the entire hand sanitizer formula itself. Hence, the lack of glycerin and hydrogen peroxide mentions. Also it specifically says RO water is acceptable for diluting the alcohol. Anyhoo, denaturing is a dumb guidance and has been, and probably will continue to be, widely unused.
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Choosing a denaturant for hand sanitizer.
daveflintstone replied to Foreshot's topic in Hand Sanitizer Production
I have a special denaturing wand I crafted from meteor fragments and banana peels. When I wave that in the general direction of a tank of alcohol or sanitizer it becomes denatured through the chaotic molecular bias inherent in the universe. And now I don't owe FET. damn those f'ing torpedoes, I agree. -
From...dirty water and conditions in developing nations? 80% alcohol doesn't kill those?
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The WHO addition of hydrogen peroxide seems odd. 80% alcohol has some serious killing power. What is hydrogen peroxide going to add? It would seem to me that the WHO guidelines are based on production in the developing world, hence the requirement for distilled or boiled water. oh well oh dhdunbar just said about the same thing. I often skim through and over your posts because they are often over my head.
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The plastic bottles are the thing that is out of stock everywhere.
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The problem is finding containers to put the sanitizer in. Plastic bottles are out of stock seemingly everywhere. Regarding hydrogen peroxide, you need to order from a lab supply company, not retail bottles on Amazon for goodness sakes. Will you be able to use up a few gallons of 35%? No but it's cheap, so doesn't matter.
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4 MORE YEARS!!1! a perfect troll or an incredible dufus
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This just in... I usually use a mori gravity filler with an inline .2 or .5 micron DOE cartridge filter. I pre filter my batch tanks with a bag filter to remove visible stuff (doing botanical infusions, or char). But one of my bottles is opaque ceramic, so no way to tell the bottle is full on the gravity filler. With 3 people we are fast, yes sometimes faster than 750ml out of the gravity filler. So I recently got an xpressfill volumetric filler, which fills by time. Set the time and it will fill for that duration. I connected the same .2 micron DOE cartridge filter before the xpressfill. Here's the twist ending: after filling about 1600 bottles, the fills started to come up short. Gradually building from a few ml to half a bottle short. Which was not discovered until over 1000 bottles were short filled. Because heavy opaque bottle. I only discovered this because there was too much product remaining in the tank. Yikes, and a fun way to spend a day, opening sealed cases and bottles to refill them to correct volume on the gravity filler. I traced the underfilling issue to the .2 micron filter by process of elimination. The filter looked almost as pristine white as when new. It seems the pump on the xpressfill is slowing down with the tiniest additional pull from the barely used filter. This is completely unexpected because I previously used an xpressfill for a few years with a .5 micron DOE cartridge inline. So apparently going from .5 to .2 micron is a big no for the xpressfill volumetric filler. btw, I used that same .2 filter to finish the opaque bottle run on the gravity filler without issue.
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Has anyone experience with comparing pre bottling filter micron sizes? I mean the difference between 0.2, 0.5, 1.0 micron cartridges on the final spirit. I'm wondering if going up to 1 micron will result in any particular (ha see what I did there) difference.
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Chinese bottles from a western owned or run factory only. Or you WILL be sorry. Don't believe brokers or salespeople in the US who simply contract with Chinese factories for bottles. They cannot control the factories. And it is simply not worth it at all.
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Product refresh/swap with distributor due to repackaging/rebranding
daveflintstone replied to Old385's topic in Federal Gov't
It's a straight swap, bottled product for bottled product, why bother to contemplate anything additional? For reference, driving 1 mile over the posted speed limit is illegal, and where I live it's against the law to drive into an intersection as soon as the light turns yellow, meaning legally one needs to slam on the brakes and hope for the best. just sayin', common sense should sometimes prevail -
Curious, why did you want to bypass the quick connect input?
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Is that the level filler or the volumetric filler?
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Distillery Investor or Strategic Partner Wanted
daveflintstone replied to LuckyTiger's topic in Business Opportunities
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I"ve used a Balston 3 stage sterile air filter with a standard oil-less big box compressor for years. Very happy with the results. Use the same filters before my tank air mixer.
