A lot seams to appear here on this forum from lots of different people whom have talked to a TTB agent and they understood the conversation one way and some one else would take it an entirely different way. And I am sure if each and every one of us ask the same question to a different TTB agent we would no doubt get a different answer. We all need to understand that the laws and regulations, which we all do not understand, with maybe the exceptions of a few lawyers that chime in on us from time to time, were written many many years ago, I think around 1903 if not sooner. The persons that wrote those regulations are I am very sure not around any more to tell us just exactly what they really meant, and just like our fore fathers who wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights. We have no possible way to really know just what they intended for each and every word they wrote down. I am sure that each and every TTB agent we talk to is trying their very best to give us clear answers to all our questions as best they can. There is so much that is left for interpretation like our tax laws, That we will never really know just exactly what they mean. So we all must do the best we can, and if we make a mistake, it is just that a mistake, because I am sure none of us are intentionally trying to break a law. One should never feel bad because he or she may do something wrong, that is how we learn. Just rambling along, doing the best I can and having one hell of a good time. Coop