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Another bump for Dave.  He handled our first DSP and will handle our move when we need that done. 

As far as the state.  It all depends. Some let you do stuff ahead of time some don't.  Whatever they say goes.  

Id say your biggest issue is going to be your local fire department.  They are going to want access and the ability to get a fire truck to the location. 

6 minutes ago, daveflintstone said:

Apparently there's a new sheriff in town...

ha no!   Im just curious how its legal and in what states? Its my understanding that its federally mandated that its not legal.  So even where states say its ok its still not legal at the fed level and the fed law trump state law. 

6 hours ago, daveflintstone said:

So by posting on this forum you have to live in the US then?

Oh sorry i thought this was a post on the American Distilling Institute forum. But sure they can be from anywhere.  So Turbo where you from? 

On 6/21/2017 at 5:57 PM, Turbo said:

After looking at some of the other hello threads I feel like I aught to expand on mine. 

 

I brew distill and age only for my own pleasure. Though I do it legally. I work a day job as an industrial mechanic. So my time to make my own whiskeys and whiskys is limited. And am always looking for better ways to do things. 

So by doing it legally you have a DSP then?  

You might not like this advise but.  You might have a better shot if you start up a little smaller,  Not buying the property and just leasing something.  Start up after a couple years turning a profit the bank will be much happier to work with you.  As of now you don't have any business or industry experience for them to bank on.  

1 hour ago, Bartletts Distillery said:

I found another bank to work with, submitted 35MB worth of files on Thursday.  Let's see what they say this coming week.

 Most likely they will say give us 10 more MB of info on Tuesday.   There is a lot of filling out paperwork in SBA loans.  

You should probably get a different bank, Our SBA that we just wrapped up had no such requirements. 

On 3/7/2017 at 0:57 PM, 3d0g said:

Floor drains, garden hose and a sprayer. DONE!

Ya forgot squeegee on a stick.  

Any pictures of the distillery? Would be interesting to see what the set up was like.  Size and what not.  

Usually the loan you get is taken out by a separate bank (you post 10% the bank posts 90%). Then once the build out is complete another bank that works with the CDC and the SBA comes in and pays down your loan to your original bank taking 50% of the total loan amount.  So yes the SBA isn't going to give you money and take on the loan until there is something their to loan for.  Or at least thats how it worked with us. 

On 5/23/2017 at 8:57 PM, nabtastic said:

To recap,

you start a ferment at 14 brix from sugarcane syrup (steens? I buy their canned stuff for home lol)

pitch yeast at 80F after rehydrating in ______ water, add ____ amount of Fermaid (O or K) to the wash after the yeast has blended in

7 days later... 0.998 SG at 3.6-3.8pH?

 Ok we started at 160 gallons of wash at 17 brix.  I added 240 grams each of ec 1118 and fermaid O   Its been fermenting at and average of 70 degrees Ph was 6.6 at the start.  Now 14 days later we are down to 3.5 brix and ph is staying constant at 3.6.   

A constructive critique should be allowed.  Its hard though when no one (or few at least)  use their real name, makes it very easy to bash whoever you want with little to know recourse.  I say if your going to pen an letter digging on someone in order for it to be posted and stay posted you should be required to post your real name, and contact info with it.   

Curious what state is the manufacture from?  

46 minutes ago, nabtastic said:

what's your pH throughout your ferm?

Starts out at about 6 and ends down around 3.8. 

1 hour ago, Dsking416 said:

If you are doing a evaporated cane wash just dilute in 120ish degree water to 1.09 SG adjust the ph and add yeast at the appropriate pitch temp and volume. It should fly, You may need to adjust temp as well though as rum likes it hotter than whiskey.

yeah thats what people keep telling me but its taking weeks to ferment out. 

18 minutes ago, nabtastic said:

Or are you starting from syrup?

Syrup.  Not all of us live in Hawaii where cane grows on every corner.  lol  

The brix for the Evaporated Cane Juice I'm using is 77 – 79.

5 hours ago, Falling Rock said:

I put a set amount of money in a specific account and show them that statement. They don't need to see your total worth or a personal balance sheet.

They don't want the total worth but they do want to see bank statements of where the month came from.  

All the specs i have read for EC-1118 say best ferment at 57.2 and 64.4 °  are you to hot?

Do you guys cook off your wash?  Or do you just add hot enough water to the cain juice to get it to mix?   Im having a hell of a time getting fermentation to take place. 

I think number 9   " Distribution in 8 states by tiny distributors and we don't have the resources to market, thus no re-orders."  can have a direct impact on the un paid taxes.   Look at it this way.   You start selling into multiple states, Every one of those state will want a pallet to get started with sales and as we know taxes are due even if your distribution has not payed you for the product.  Its pretty easy to send it out on a 30 day invoice and have the distributor be 90 out on payment.  So your paying all your cogs and overhead every day to send product out, and then have to pay taxes on top of it.   If you don't have enough capital to hold out until those payments state coming back in you can get behind the 8 ball pretty quickly. 

But dunno what really happened just thoughts. 

2 minutes ago, ThatDrunkenBird said:

https://www.grainger.com/product/1DPK2?gclid=CJbPrbbC_NICFUW2wAodRkYC0A&cm_mmc=PPC:GOOGLEPLAA-_-Plumbing-_-Pipe Fittings and Couplings-_-1DPK2&AL!2966!3!166588805278!!!g!82128167637!&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!166588805278!!!g!82128167637!&ef_id=Vp7hdAAABTP3IDVt:20170329200919:s

 

more like this. then put your threaded fitting on. 

Its a threaded male out of the tote.  So i need a female (mystery thread) to 2" sanitary.   

35 minutes ago, ThatDrunkenBird said:

Try a camlock to sanitary fitting adapter. I have gotten totes from a few different sources and they are always different threads. 

I took the  2" tri clamp to Female NPT that i have that i cant get to thread onto the tote to the hardware store and was able to thread all the standard NPT stuff into it. As well as all the cam lock fittings so I'm thinking that a camlock won't go on either since it threads onto the fitting that won't go on the tote. 

OK This maybe a dumb question so if it is give me a dumb answer.   But  I'm asking anyway.

I have a couple GNS totes the ICB kind that i want to use as fermenters.  The problem is i cant figure out what thread type the outlet is.  I thought it was just a standard thread but i got a stainless 2" tri clamp to Female NPT thinking it would thread on but it won't go on.   Is the thread on the tote specific?  Im pretty sure I'm twisting it the right direction lol!!  

 Any advice? 

1 minute ago, BoydLabBuck said:

Has anyone confirmed whether the TTB is on board with this?  I'm also considering this as an idea to reduce initial capital investment, but reading through the DSP regulations yesterday has me wondering if it's technically allowed.  The CFR made it sound like mashing must be done under the DSP.

I know of a few people mashing off site in brewery then bringing the wart to the dsp and pitching yeast. Until yeast is added its just cooked grain.  Anyone can cook grain no license necessary.  But when you pitch yeast its then on the books.  

but iv been wrong before