Matt Overway Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Has anyone ran into this issue and if so found a way to combat it? It seems very sporadic and information has been hard to find. Happy to share our processes if anyone can help point in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreshot Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Post up some photos. Tell us more about your process - is it a distilled gin or compound? Do you add sugar or anything post distillation? Proof? Do you filter pre-bottling? If so how tight of a filter? Do you rinse or wash your bottles? How are they filled? Is it a cloudy debris or more sandy/grit like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Overway Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Thank you for your response. Our current process is starting with NGS and steeping all botanicals for 4-5 before redistilling. Botanicals do not go into the still. We are using RO water to proof down to 80 and filtering through a one micron. Bottles are air rinsed before being filled on a Mori 6 head gravity filler. Any insight is appreciated. This is has never been noticed in our tasting rooms but once the spirit has gone out to our distributors and sits on a retail shelf. IMG_6108.HEIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreshot Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 That's a new one. Just to double check - you're not adding anything post distillation? It seems like you're doing all the right things. At 40% ABV nothing biological should be growing. It must be a chemical reaction. Can you bottle a bottle without using the pump/bottle filler/air sparger? Give it some time to see if this stuff shows up. Maybe it's some contamination coming from a pump or hose? Doing this would eliminate some possibilities. Is the filter you're using reusable or one time? Maybe buy a different manufacturer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sator Square Distillery Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Is it at all possible that there's a closure failure happening here? I've seen a lot of weird things but this sort of debris in a clear spirit is totally new to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Overway Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Unfortunately I do not believe this to be the case. Product will sit in our warehouse for months and it doesn't happen. Only once it is shipped out to the distributor or to a retailer have we found this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaintingGoatSpirits Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Sounds like a marketing opportunity to me 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sator Square Distillery Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 It's not exactly cheap to do, but my only suggestion would be to try to screen out some of that debris and send it out to a lab to figure out what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Overway Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 I think we might try this. Any thoughts on any good labs to contact about this? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreshot Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 https://bdastesting.com/ Send them the whole bottle. Anything you do might contaminate it further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeytango Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 6:58 AM, FaintingGoatSpirits said: Sounds like a marketing opportunity to me 😉 Not sure I get the spin on this? "Weird unidentified orange shit in every bottle" People are going to buy the shit out of that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Overway Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 🤣😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim C Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 What kind of corks are you using? I've seen composite corks fail and start to fall apart leaving lots of little floating particles and glue bits in the bottle. When this happened the bottles were stored in extreme heat of a sales persons trunk in warm weather over several weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Overway Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 It is a synthetic cork but it seems like that would be consistent to all of our products and not exclusive and random to gin. Worth looking into! Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocko Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Curious the outcome of this investigation. Did you send it to the lab for testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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