storing full barrels vertically ? anyone have an opinion?

[Donutboy]

Looking for some opinion from folks on vertically storing barrels (head down, head up) vs horizontally. We are in a storage crunch and storing them vertically would help us out a lot.

Roy

[bluestar]

We don't, but I recall that many of the barrels at Stranahan's were stored that way.

[Jedd Haas]

We received some barrels that had the bung in the end. So we're storing vertically now. So far, no problem.

[MikeW]

Take a look at this.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/03/13/has-looming-bourbon-shortage-arrived/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork

[irishdistiller]

Vertical storage on pallets is standard in both Ireland and Scotland

[miller]

Just talking today with people from Hiram Walker and they are switching all their storage to vertical and handing on pallets for speed and labor savings, but they said they have slightly more loss ( angels share ) than storage horizontal but the labor savings and speed far out weighs the losses. Their tests also show no difference in any aging factors

[patrick260z]

Just talking today with people from Hiram Walker and they are switching all their storage to vertical and handing on pallets for speed and labor savings, but they said they have slightly more loss ( angels share ) than storage horizontal but the labor savings and speed far out weighs the losses. Their tests also show no difference in any aging factors

The extra loss is due to hydrostatic pressure. I wonder at what volume and $/btl do the losses end up hurting you?

[jbdavenport1]

We visited Bowman's distillery in Virginia. They store vertically. They said they actually have less loss to angel's she because all the staves stay hydrated. Whereas on their sides, staves on the top tend to dry and create gaps.

[Rum]

The guy who used to run Florida Caribbean distillery (large producer - used to make Cruzan, etc) told me that they ran experiments on this. They found an acceptable angel's share until they tried to stack four levels high. At that level of stacking they believed that the weight of the barrels put stress on the staves of the lower barrels and caused more evaporation than they were willing to accept. 

[philstill]

Six barrels high, 1.4 million barrels in storage. This is the same distillery that has the current "best whiskey in the world"

The Best Whiskey in the World Is Canadian

https://www.forbes.com/sites/karlaalindahao/2015/11/30/crown-royal-northern-harvest-rye-is-best-whiskey-in-the-world-2016/#10588abf3751

 

[SlickFloss]

Dead piling in vertical storage stacks on pallets is far more efficient safer to handle and will allow you to fit more barrels then traditional ricking structures or using racks. One thing you can do is seal the bung mid barrel and drill out a hole on the top, then pump in and out through top- this will make handling barrels exponentially easier quicker and safer- but you lose the romance of rolling barrels around and popping that stave mounted bung

 

 

cheers bro

[SlickFloss]

Dead piling in vertical storage stacks on pallets is far more efficient safer to handle and will allow you to fit more barrels then traditional ricking structures or using racks. One thing you can do is seal the bung mid barrel and drill out a hole on the top, then pump in and out through top- this will make handling barrels exponentially easier quicker and safer- but you lose the romance of rolling barrels around and popping that stave mounted bung

 

 

cheers bro