junglejimmy Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Hi, As the title suggests i am in the process of making a cost effective house gin for the bar and nightclub market. I have my recipe all figured out and I am happy with the taste, but I have run into a few problems with the maceration and distilling technique. The first being the cloudiness issue. I know discarding the heads is a way to reduce the cloudiness, but i have found to get a truly clear gin I have to discard a lot. Is it possible to keep all of the heads and just filter the oil and cloudiness out? If so what size filter would accomplish this without any loss in taste? Also, as I would like to save money and reduce waste, what temperature can I collect to without compromising the taste? So far I have been collecting to 90C but I feel I could go higher. Thanks Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebstauffer Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You may be able to cold crash and filter the precipitate. Alternatively if you bump the ABV up some of that can remain in solution (a new COLA would be in order). Lastly, if it's for a well brand you could always buy a gin base from your friendly bulk ethanol vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If you cold chill, the effectiveness of the activated carbon is the length of contact time (spirit flow) through the carbon column. I can supply you the carbon, but there are many lower cost smaller GPM set ups that members here use. But the manufacturers of the carbon suggest cold chilling which "activates the carbon" enabling it to absorb oils in the spirit. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouzo_effect then read these threads: http://adiforums.com/index.php?showtopic=5710&hl=%2Bgin+%2Bcloudiness#entry32672 http://adiforums.com/index.php?showtopic=5989&hl=louching In my opinion you don't want to discard or filter the oils. If you have concentrated the oils so much to the point that they cloud you should be able to "dilute" with clean vodka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl5612 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Inexpensive house gin. Buy loads of neutral spirit. Make a compound gin by soaking your botanicals in the spirit (and removing). Market it cleverly (without obscuring its humble method of production). Et voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I am going to try to start selling ultra concentrated gin. So you could use one of my gallons and add it to about 500-1000 gallons of neutral......at what you think taste the best. and boom!!!!! INSTA-GIN tm!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Haas Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I hear that's the method used in some UK distilleries. Although more like 2:1 or 3:1 rather than 1000:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 it is insanely compact. For a "new Amsterdam" clone it is about .65 grams to one 750ml bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffw Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Better prices than Flavorman? I believe they are the one that make New Amsterdam flavoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 How much are their prices? Lets say the price is $500 per gallon , that is cheap. Think of the time saved, and how easy it is to use. Also you can make your gin as light or as strong tasting as you want. You will not mess your still up by cross contamination. At a rate of .65 g with 8lbs you could make about 5582- 750ml bottles. That would be about .09 cent per bottle. HELLO, DIRT CHEAP!!!!!! We have not narrowed down what it will cost, but we will probably sell by the oz. or by the 500 / 1000 grams at a time. FLAVORMAN = I talked to them a long time ago and they wanted $20,000 to develop a formula. Mine mine was blown. Heck no!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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