pndTom Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Recently received a shipment of nordic style bottles from our supplier. These bottles are made by Piramal. On about 40% of the bottles the sides are not straight. They have a slight indentation on the bottom and as a result, our labels end up wrinkled when they're applied. This was the first shipment of those bottles that were produced in India. Wondering if anyone else who uses bottles made by Piramal has had any issues with the India produced bottles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlyon Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 We use their Jersey bottles. Ever since they moved production to India the quality has noticeably dropped. The batch I'm working my way through now has inconsistent neck openings. Some corks fit fine the majority are very loose. There are often chips on the lips and shoulders and the boxes are either over glued or under glued and have an off smell. Expensive as ever though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreshot Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Same here. They are fairly bad now. Tons of defects. We're aiming to move away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeytango Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Used to use their nordics as well moving to custom since the move to India also sounds weird but has anyone else noticed the funky old fart smell with the new India glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlyon Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 That's an excellent description of the "off" smell. I suspect it's the glue they use. Terrible in a confined bottle storage area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 We got a skid of 375s that had the wrong neck diameter entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaalvenn Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Silk City Distillers said: We got a skid of 375s that had the wrong neck diameter entirely. We found the same thing. The necks had suddenly shrunk about 1mm which was enough that the corks we used wouldn't fit. Thankfully we moved away from 375s. Have not seen any quality differences with our 750 Jerseys from India...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pndTom Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Interesting about the smell being reported. I have my bottles in the area where we temporarily store our spent grains and thought that the off smell was coming from the grains. Never thought it could be bottles/boxes. It's actually funking up the entire distillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 We compared India Nordics to USA before they shut down USA production, and at that time it was clear the product from India gave inconsistent fills with level filling because of shape variations, and also problems applying some labels. We have used some Arizonas and Nordics from India since the USA shut down, and they were a little better than we previously, but still inferior to the USA production. We have considered going to Stockholm (Anchor), the quality looks acceptable, but the glass has a bluish cast that is less desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Distillery Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Are they not making anything in the US anymore? I got some of their Lincoln bottles from India. The bottles were clean enough but the packaging was noticeably dirtier than I have been used to. One pallet had a case that was missing (and marked as missing!) several bottles, another case had several broken bottles. I was down about a full case between three pallets. I've never seen that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 We got a skid of bottles with the wrong neck diameter - so our existing bar tops did not fit. Beyond that snafu - I have noticed more quality issues - inclusions in the glass (specks of black material), as well as some bubbles in the base that look like dark inclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up&Adam Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 We have been using the Springfield 750 for a few years. Because O.Berk refused to answer the phone or return emails late last year we had to order through an independent broker, the lead time was 9 months. the cases we received from India smell like a sour barnyard. I have also noticed some pretty extreme variances with this lot using a volumetric filler. I am feeling the fatigue of this glass shortage/supply chain issues, We ordered 2 skids of Kaleidoscope 375's from Canada with a reasonable lead time and the truck showed up with damaged pallets, loose bottles rolling around and broken glass all over the place. I have reached out to other suppliers and have received few or severely delayed responses. Saverglass took 5 months to respond to an email. I wish it was legal to have a refillable growler style program/club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackheart2 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We use a different supplier, but have seen serious manufacture defects recently as well. We had to send an entire truckload back! Mold (as in casting mold) was somehow off and the bottles were crumbling in the pack line! Extremely frustrating to wait as long as we are to pay upfront and a premium for garbage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I would have paid more… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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