Old Glory Distilling Co.

It was a wheated bourbon mash bill distilled on the grain in all three scenarios. We've recently begun laying down barrels of single malt distilled on the grain through our continuous column & doubler. We're really happy with the distillate coming off.

We have a Primera LX2000 that served us well for short runs (100-200 labels) in our early days. We even went so far as to have custom die cut blank labels made by Kenco for it. The print quality was good, but not near as good as our current label supplier. The excess material around the die cut needs to be "weeded" out. If you use a label applicator (like an AP-360 or AP-362), the labels would need to be re-rolled correctly. And you *might* be able to save some money on the cost of ink, but then you need to factor in the cost of maintenance and potentially needing to replace a print head. That being said, we came to the realization that once we factored in the time we were spending, it just wasn't worth it. It was one of the many "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" lessons we've learned. We're really good at making great spirits ... not printing labels.

In our opinion, there will absolutely be a difference in taste, but you can produce very high quality whiskey using either method. It's simply a matter of preference, and as @Silk City Distillers stated, those are just 2 of many variables. One of our contract distillation clients had the exact same question, so we decided we'd distill it 3 different ways to find their preference. We cooked and fermented 1 batch of their mash bill (2500 gallons). We then distilled: 500 gallons of the beer on our copper pot still using our 4-plate column & dephlegmator 1000 gallons of beer through a stripping run using the pot only, and then distilled those low wines in a finishing run using the pot only. To note, this was "true" pot distillation as our 4-plate column is offset on a side stand, so the vapor path is totally unobstructed to the condenser. 1000 gallons of beer on our 14" copper continuous column & doubler. Their preference ended up being the distillate off of our continuous column - followed by the distillate from the pot still only stripping & finishing runs. But again, it's totally a matter of opinion. For our own brands, we've won many awards from whiskey distilled on our 4-plate column ... but again, totally a matter of opinion. It was a really fun experiment for us to run, and we'd love to do it again with your mash bill if you want.

We use Ink360 (ink360.com). Their print quality is great, and they've always been great to work with ... but the freight cost to Florida might be too much for what you're looking for. Chattanooga Labeling Systems (clsdeco.com) might be worth reaching out to as well since they're a little closer to you. We've never used them ourselves, but one of our clients that we co-pack for is looking to use them.

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We use a 2500 gallon cooler, and we run about 3500 lbs/hr of corn through our hammer mill and auger it directly into the cooker. Wheat, rye, and malted barley obviously run much faster.

We were having similar issues - also with the milled grain collecting around the inlet/slide gate with all the moisture. We finally settled on moving the outlet location on our milled grain conveyor so that we could simply use a section of flexible 4" hose that drops in the manway for grain additions. The grain no longer piles up on the cooling coils, we no longer forget to open the slide gate (because we removed it!), and probably most importantly - we're able to easily keep our grain augers/inlet tubes clean and near moisture free.

All- We have 200 barrels of 80C/10R/10MB for sale. #4 Char Kelvin Cooperage Barrel. Barreled September 2023. Asking $1050 each. Open to offers for the entire lot. Cheers!

Hey Everyone - We're letting go of a little bit of our wheated bourbon. Everything over 24 months was pot distilled in a single pass on a Vendome 500 gallon copper pot still using a 4-plate column & dephlegmator. The barrels under 24 months were/are distilled on a 14" Vendome copper continuous column and doubler. Mash Bill: 73% Corn / 19% Wheat / 8% Malted Barley Age Qty. Available Price Range New Make 1000+ $1000-$1200 1-18 Month 100 $1200-$2000 18-24 Month 60 $2000-$2500 24-36 Month 48 $2500-$3750 36-48 Month 24 $3750-$4500 Pricing is flexible depending on quantity. New make pricing is quantity and mash bill dependent. Email us at custom@oldglorydistilling.com or call 931.229.3345 for more info. Cheers, Matt Cunningham

We'll be there as well! -Matt

All - We're continuing to add distillation capacity specifically dedicated to contract production. For anyone that is needing or considering new fill barrels, whether it be for one of our standard mash bills or your own, we can currently turn orders around in as little as 30 days. https://oldglorydistilling.com/contract-distilling/ Hope to meet everyone at our booth in Vegas!

Do you know if the jacketed portion is baffled in any way? Or is it just a 2" tube inside of an empty 3" tube?

UPDATE: Since my initial post back in September, we've added a 2nd shift for additional barrel production capacity. We have around 1000 barrels of capacity currently available for the remainder of 2023. We've had to increase our minimums to 24 barrels for our standard mash bills (MB#1: 19% Rye MB#2: 19% Wheat) and 48 barrels for custom mash bills. Here's the link to our contract services page on our website that we'll keep updated as this post ages: https://oldglorydistilling.com/contract-distilling/ Cheers, Matt Cunningham

All - Coming up in 2023, we have excess distillation capacity that we're looking to fill on our 14" Vendome continuous copper column and doubler. We keep the 4 main grains on hand (corn, wheat, rye, and malted barley) as well as new #3 and #4 char white American oak barrels. Our minimum for a custom mash bill is 20 barrels, and if you don't want to take delivery of them immediately, we can store them in our barrel house as well. Pricing is mash bill and grain price dependent, but as of today, a standard new fill 80C-10R-10MB is around $1150/barrel. We're located in Clarksville, Tennessee about 45 minutes North of Nashville. If anyone has any interest, shoot me a PM or email to custom@oldglorydistilling.com Cheers, Matt Cunningham

Does anyone have any recommendations for bottle (glass) coders for an automated bottling line? The inkjet options seem to be the most cost effective up front, but we really like the CO2 laser options. Thanks in advance!

We're looking for a couple pallets of 750ml Moonshine Jugs to help us bridge the gap between now and when Piramal does another run. Anybody have any extra pallets they're willing to sell? Thanks!

Does anyone have any extra inventory of these they could spare? Our regular supplier is out of stock, and we need a pallet to hold us over until the next production run. Thanks in advance - Matt

Thanks for all that started and contributed to this thread already. We're now looking to add a control system to our dephlegmator, and just want to revive this thread to see if anyone else has done this with a PID. If so, would you mind posting specs/pics of your setup? We plan to go the 4-20ma proportional valve route. Thanks in advance.

We're looking to setup a semi-automatic 50ml line with an ROPP capper. Is anyone already running a similar line or a stand alone 18mm ROPP capper? Any recommendations for equipment suppliers? Thanks in advance.

+1 on the Zebra thermal printer. We bought the ZP 450 used on ebay for around $200. It can print up to a 4"x6" label, and the rolls are cheap. And since it's a thermal printer, you never have to buy ink.

We direct inject live steam to heat and use the jacket to cool.

Is this machine still available?

With the cost of smaller "half-sized" barrels being just as much if not more than the cost of regular 53 gallon barrels, has anyone simply half-filled a regular 53 gallon to achieve the same result? Just off of the top of my head, I believe same concept of more surface area of wood to volume of liquid ratio would still apply. Thoughts?

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How to build a CO2 pump for fermentation gases Explain which materials are safe for handling alcohol and at what proof Have a "sources" page for companies that might sell an obscure piece of equipment or components commonly used in other industries, but that don't market to distilleries A "Things I've Learned"/"Things I'd Do Different" bullet point page ... that would actually make a good thread topic here. Explain simple things that we now take for granted: How to dump cases of empty bottles onto a table for filling Using a latex glove to separate & apply shrink sleeve flats to bottles Inserting finished/labeled bottles into case partition slots at an angle/corner of the slot so the labels don't rip and tear getting caught on the sharp cardboard The notch on the bottom of bottles indicates the center of the back of the bottle Show different ways barrels can be stacked/palletized How to unload loose barrels off of a semi Cost effective and efficient examples of grain handling systems