SlickFloss

I fucking love this dude so much. Hope to meet you one day if you're every stateside visiting Paul!

Thats fucking right daddy! Why scream into the ethereal darkness when enlightenment is sitting oh so close away in rural Missouri? Hope you like your new whip! Congrats on the brand velocity!

I have now decided I like you. Let me know if there is anything I can ever do to assist your distilling journey.

Minnesota is not the state I would recommend someone jump into without a firm understanding of distribution. Let's start here instead, what I want you to do is divide your annual cs sales in your home market by your total throughput capacity and provide that figure. As an example say 900 cs / year sold and you could make 12000 cs (flat nines) 6a-6pm Sunday-Sunday* (900/12000)=.075. The denominator should be your actual potential throughput, not your actual production number. If you're not calculating sales in hundreds of flat nine liter equivalents or hundreds of six packs (i.e.if you're tracking bottles) and have a capacity for thousands of flat nines with all due respect you need to drastically improve your home market first.

Just so we have this right, you want to run two separate Lyne arms into two separate thumpers and then back into the same condenser?

a 1% concentration would be enough I'd imagine unless yours are really gummed up. No real reason to go above 4% I can see

How big of a still are you running with how many solar panels? Eventually you hit a limit where it is just not realistic. Case in point, I would accept any input on how I can power 2 x 1750 gallon cookers, 1 x 3000 gallon cooker, 3 x 240 gallon cookers, 1 x 25 inch diameter stripping column, 1 x 14 inch azeotropic column, 1 x 18 inch column with doubler and 1 x 240 gallon potstill? I need enough power to run these concurrently every Monday at start up, and from there they will stagger throughout the week. Absolutely given an entire farm of panels that much wattage isn't an issue, but on top of my 3400 sq foot pre fabbed building? Thing can't even support weight of 10 panels. Never the less I only have 8 hours of sunlight for 6 months of the year. Sounds like I would need to buy another farm just for solar panels! Given the foresight and budget ahead of time it is doable with a solar project near by, but greening a pre existing space doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bath water just because you can't install enough solar panels. For instance, what about the generators I run off of steam turbines on my low nox boilers? Are those worthless too? Am I not green enough?

Buon vino mini jet filter, I use often. remove tubes, Soak in citric, Soak in water, perform swab test if thats in your facilities protocols, if not return to service.caustic If your tubes are caustic safe, IDK if mine or yours are, I do have a friend that cleans his caustic and citric and has no issues. That doesnt make sense to me though chemically. Cheers.

Any one bottling should be an expert in filtration! Cheers!

So what silk is saying is the POLARITY OF YOUR SOLVENT will impact the FLAVOR OF YOUR TARGET based off of desired compounds for extractions and their solvency in the given polarity of the solvent at any given time (which is what I said in my first post : ) ) As always thanks for the back up silk! I think what he's telling you OP is you need to EXPERIMENT yourself, because the results will not be as cut and dry as you being successful because you went up to 200 proof! AH HAAAAA!!!!!!!

depending on length of extraction and type of fruit you may need a myriad of different options. Also size and scale. Presses, centrifuges, separatory funnels, jet filter, fritted discs, cartridge filters, etc. etc. etc. all come to mind. Cheers.

in chemistry anhydrous is a chemical form containing no water. Anhydrous ethanol is very rare (nonexistent?) in nature hence the use of the sieve to produce it for ethanol. 80% of the time in chemistry we are referencing crystalline solids when speaking about anhydrous chemicals. Anhydrous ethanol and many other anhydrous liquids are very difficult to keep stable, for instance in this case anhydrous ethanol can and will absorb and bond to water from the air to make it no longer anhydrous. This can even occur in it's own storage containers after opening it for initial use. The tendency for certain compounds to absorb ambient moisture is a property known as being "hygroscopic." Hydrates or compounds with woc in their structures have water bonded to their cations.

Love Pittsburgh! I compete in bodybuilding and thats the home of bodybuilding! Pittsburgh pro is one of the best shows in the country Ill be out there again for it some time soon when covid calms down so you'll definitely be hearing from me!

Unfortunately providing safety information to unknown peoples upon the internet etc is where I morally have to draw a line to protect my business legally. What I will say is it is as dangerous as handling azeotropic spirit, and you should absolutely be safe and follow best practices and protocols. There are a number of resources out there to train you or your employees that I think are fantastic. All of my employees are trained by a safety consulting company. We are all certified lift operators, confined space trained, chemical handling certified, etc. You will be regulated different by where you are operating at. Some places will require full H3 compliancy for handling high polarity solvents. Some will make you use a fume hood and full ppe. Some states will let you do things like this with very few restrictions beyond dont let it go down the drain. We intentionally found a place like the latter, however still follow best practices in an intentionally over built facility.

And now I see we agree! Very sound advice! OP an option which may be helpful for you would be to do a large step down infusion. Start with your botanicals that extract well at a high proof, soak them in the total amount of solvent from a PG perspective (not from a wg perspective) for the entire batch. Extract per flavor quality timelines, remove solutes, proof down to next highest proof range for next solute, extract, move on, extract move on, extract move on. Remember your "primer" so to speak will be different with the anhydrous so what you think you're looking for you may not find.

Silk my man! As always, you are absolutely full of incredibly useful information! Appreciate the response and I will be opening an account with Cabot! Hope to share a dram with you one day my friend!

With all due respect I am not sure I follow this logic and it is not where I would start. Given this particular application, increasing the concentration of the solvent doesn't equate to an increased ability to hold more solute in suspension. Increasing the amount of the solvent would increase the amount it can suspend depending on its chemical composition, changing it's polarity would change the type of compounds it would (and wouldn't) extract. As well, the compounds extracted will not be in the same solubility ratios that OP is expecting, so won't have same flavor results. I do agree that OP should start with many small batches and move from there, but increasing concentration of the solvent is probably not the golden answer if they want to replicate the same results as 120. Although there are some compounds that would definitely extract better at higher proofs. Realistically without knowing what compounds OP is trying to extract no one can provide sound advice to them other than do a lot of small tests. Which is for sure sound advice. OP You will not have the same flavor and texture results if you change the polarity of your solvent. As well, you cannot expect that your 200 proof will have the same congener density as what you were using before. A lot of GNS sold for vodka and gin production has different congener levels than truly neutral grain, most of "us" (sorry to sound like a punk ass bitch here but that "us" is actually a non-pejorative "y'all") probably don't realize that. Azeotrope and anhydrous are not equal when it comes to flavor. Starch sources will all have different flavors, even in neutral spirit. R and D Research and Development The people who are successful in this industry have thoroughly researched opportunities to develop. Dive in head first. You're off to a great start!

I gotta dope ass double cartridge filter cart coming from mack daddy Paul at ADE and I need some media to fill it. I was hoping people would be willing to share some of their favorite sources for bulk purchases of..... Activated Carbon (preferably coconut shell) Diatomaceous Earth FP-4 Also, if anyone has a source for big blue cartridge filter replacements, inline cartridge filters, inline strainers, and regular filtration pads please let me know! Looking for people who are easy to work with, our supplier is frequently out of stock and often messes up shipments. Cheers, Slick

fools errand imo. Unless you're trying to intentionally run a shop that uses antiquated methods in order to display old world whiskey production, which IMO is absolutely fucking pointless unless you're not utilizing steam or automated cooling, no PIDs, Pumps? What? There were no pumps in the ozarkian hills! Electricity neither! There just isn't a point. Unless, of course, you're doing it for budgetary reasons, which doesn't make sense to me because lumber and labor are both high and there are a ton of old dairy tanks around that are cheap and easy to use and work for what your goal is. to validate my criticism, I worked in a distillery with cyprus fermenters, was such a bitch to clean. Get something with a spray ball or that isn't a living vessel that needs to be maintained above and beyond cleaning runs to function properly. Your gonna have enough work to do without baby-sitting your warping drying out and lactobacillus infested wooden fermenters.

To be very frank with you this still is absolute trash. Those clips to hold on the lid will be non penetrating tack welds that will fail eventually under pressure from normal use. Also, I doubt this has a PRV on it. If it does, I doubt it is rated calibrated sized or functional. It's also likely that the copper is not a suitable alloy for your intended purposes. Also, with out actual specs and bastardizing my whole day to do this for you, I cannot confirm that there is enough copper in there to make good spirit, but I can tell you I doubt there is. Also, again without specs and bastardizing my day, the dimensions of the plates and caps is something I don't think looks right. If you're trying to hit azeo, fuck those plates and run a packed column. the depgh looks like a pussy too. Just my $.02. You can get a better still for less elsewhere. You can build yourself a much better still for much much much much less with a little gumption. Good luck man! Keep asking questions! I don't mean to rain on your parade but I wanted to keep you from making a mistake. From one seasoned and graduated Moonshiner, to a new one. Have fun.

Generally poor message board etiquette to restart an old thread and hijack it at the same time. Given you are not seeking the actual information from this thread, it would be best for you to begin your own thread. As well, general rule of thumb per message boards in general, not really the verbatim rules of this forum, is to allow sleeping dogs to lie (not kick up five year old threads, especially to talk off topic on them) At this point in time I would normally remind people there is a great search function on the board, but I am assuming you used it to find this half of a decade dead conversation. Welcome to the forums!

In an effort to make it clear I am not trying to be pejorative or negative or tell you you're wrong I want to start out by saying I really enjoy your anecdotal references and I welcome the conversation on this topic, but I very much disagree with your opinion of the process. LCP was never intended to make a neutral grain, thats not functionally how activated carbon filtration and purification works, and well column stills were already invented and in use by the time the LCP (allegedly) was created or committed to. It is said that LCP was invented or committed to by JD in the 1830s. Aeneas Coffey had patented his Coffey still in 1830, and Fournier had already made the first continuous column all the way back in 1814. So high proof and high purity ethanol was already a thing by that point in time. I believe that the LCP came out of a need for distillers to be able to produce better cleaner whiskey despite having an incomplete knowledge of fermentation mechanics, yeast microbiology, and frankly sanitation technology. Distillers didn't have the resources to clean their copper pots like we do today with cheap and available citric acid. There wasn't automated temp correction on ferments. From one aspect of it to me, I believe they probably were looking for ways to mitigate some off tastes and smells and flavors, but they were probably also trying to filter out solids and just stumbled upon the taste benefits. Again, not telling you you are wrong, just that I disagree. But I love the conversation. Cheers my man! If you're ever in Wisconsin look me up.

Big time appreciate you pointing me in this direction, cowboy!

I am not John but I can help you. Open the cut sheet. Look at the steam source There is also a condensate return If there is condensate return it cannot be directly injected steam, given this is one column with one heat source Cheers.

it literally says 75k each