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  1. MG Thermal Consulting
    If you need any add on chiller capacity, I can help out on that end. At these sizes a heat recovery chiller may be able to preheat water and add on extra cooling capacity as well. By using a refrigerant-water desuperheater option, you can store potable hot water for mash batching and use the chilled water for the still cooling. Hot water will decrease the size of the additional boiler HP if you intend on using "clean" steam. Chiller sections can be made in modular form as well.
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    Chiller needed?
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    Howdy! hope to see you here again!
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    Welcome, neighbor- I'm over in Lawrenceville, GA. If you're ever over this way, give me a shout! I have another fellow I've quoted putting up a distillery in Atlanta. Regards, Mike
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    Normally, like Mr Silk said, you are a bit low on product temp. Remember you need you have cooling side fluid to be 10-15 degrees lower than the fermenter set point, so I normally use around 50F glycol/water with my chillers for the heat exchanger. Regards,
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    If it's a smaller still, probably the coil would be cheaper. Once you get larger, a plate/frame HTX would be your next bet. Your options are smaller once you cool mash, you pretty much have to go to an external tube within a tube design for optimum performance. I would look for dairy milk coolers- tube in tube type. Mike
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    I suddenly have available a few single phase chillers that are listed as "reconditioned", but were either turn-ins or freight damaged and fixed up and put into stock. If anyone needs some booster cooling or temp control for fermenting, give me a shout. Unless you have a reservoir for cooling, these will not chill mash effectively without one, but that can be done fairly inexpensively. I have talked to a few clients that have been told they can cool mash in the fermenter- beware this can only be done with a full jacket or external mash exchanger. The small jackets are meant for only temperature control and cannot crash cool, even at 28F glycol, the jacket is not sized for it. Regards, Mike
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    Hope our PM's have helped you get your mashes cooled!
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    Getting ready to supply filtration packages, with/without chill filtering. The fellow doing the engineering on all this is getting a patent, so not much on paper right now. Right now, paying $8,000 for a chiller and another $2,500 for the filtering side is somewhat of a budget. I am looking at using a glycol feed from my distilling chiller and the filtering package as an option. The chiller has more cost for the PLC to recognise the C.F. need and start that process which is $1,000, but the downside is there is a lot of interdependency. I do sell off my vendors reman small chillers and cancellations to mitigate the chiller cost. Hope to get this onboard by years end.
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    According to a manufacturer of the "activated" carbon, the activation takes place around 32F product temperature. I have supplied a rum producer a "dual setting" chiller, glycol settings: for 45F for production, 25F for chilling product prior to chill filtration.
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    I have a "reman" chiller in stock that would fit this system, 230/3/60,with 90 day parts warranty. Cash sale. Email me is you need a cooling system to use with this. Mike
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    Sev, If you need any replacing on the cooling end, give me a shout.
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    The treatment can vary from ozone, traditional chemical to glycol (glycol %needs to be 30% of else it will aid in biological growth. I have a client who is transferring water from a couple large tanks, equalizing them if necessary, using hot water from mash cooling for heating ends and the makeup city water to temper the cold water tank to lessen the heat load on his chiller. Much like Paul's concept. Whenever able, I like to place a small glycol loop with an isolation to chill cold water tanks from cold night-winter air cutting down chiller usage for all winter. I am looking to add a heat reclaim chiller to this loop as well to make hot water up to 170F, shedding off max use for boiler load. These paybacks vary from one to 4 years. Higher temperature refrigerants will make the maximum reclaim temperature close to 190F. Mike
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    Class I Div 2 industrial users have gone to pressure positive inert gas purge systems go air cannot leak into panel and cause a spark and explosion. Last one I quoted, an electrician was doing work on the substation about 75 yards away from the plant where they were going to put the chiller to avoid cost....well a garage door was opened at the plant resulting in gas moving to the substation causing an explosion and fire that killed the electrician and put the company permanently out of business. Never underestimate.
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    I can supply you with a heat reclaim chiller, making 170F hot glycol off the chiller and use the heat on various heat heat exchange devices needing heat, but then that would be an overkill. Rube Goldberg the heck out of it:):)
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    If you're using a central cooling system and it doesn't have a cooling jacket, you could wrap a mess of pex tubing around it and run a chilled water return line from your still and warm it up
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    Used to travel IN when I repped in Chi-town after going to college in N.IN. I am placing a cooling system in N Chi suburbs and have some around Indianapolis, too. Don't hesitate to give me a ring if you have cooling questions. Mike G
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    Was reading one of those posts on Facebook and was wondering, but they can use shells for lots of things but they do make ethanol for gasoline additive from it.
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    Has anyone ever tried to make beer or spirits form crushed almond shells??? I figure someone from Cali would know.
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    I may be able to get a 2 HP unit from someone who wound up not using it. I believe it would be in the $3,000 range tho'. I'll give him a call and see if he decided to keep it or not.
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    Also a 16 ton remote condenser split, but it's 460/3/60 unused.
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    A booster chiller will work if configured properly. I have a couple 5 HP chillers and a 4 HP, all either factory reconditioned or new, customer cancellations. Prices vary between $7k and $8K plus freight. All are 230/3/60 and one is located at a customer's location in N.CA. Prices do not include freight.
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    Jordan, I work with distillers on cooling system design, give me a call if you have time to talk. Mike G 678-773-2794
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    Seems to be a more common way to for higher production srt ups is to store product in a jacketed tank during the week, chill during weekend and filter it out next day in. I have chillers that be turned down to 25F for that purpose and reset for 45F for weekly production. I have a rum producer that does the chilling similarly, and it all seems to work out well for him.
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    Great, just kinda keep watch on your well level, not so much for still runs as mash cooling, where I've had customers that have had their wells running dry. If necessary, you can fill up totes and get a small chiller and run it down to colder than 49F and recirculate it and when your done, use the water for heating or mash fills. Good luck!
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